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Old 07-20-2004, 12:43 PM
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Hi - Is it true that gas engines smell much more strongly than their glow counterparts (I am talking about during storage - not while they are running)? I was thinking of buying a gas engine for my next plane however I have been advised that due to the strong smell they give off it would have to be kept in a garage rather than in my house.

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I store my plane in a sealed box with gas and it doesn't smell unless I forget to put the vent on the fuel jug.
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_18...tm.htm#1838881

It is advised by the german distributer of the ZDZ engines:
http://zdz-motor.de/instract/ZDZ%20M...0Modellbau.htm
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Hi - Is it true that gas engines smell much more strongly than their glow counterparts (I am talking about during storage - not while they are running)? I was thinking of buying a gas engine for my next plane however I have been advised that due to the strong smell they give off it would have to be kept in a garage rather than in my house.

Is this true?

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I have always stored my gas models in the house, but I do empty the tank before storage. If you leave gas in the tanks, it will breath and possibly stink. You could always use Coleman lantern fuel. It does not smell nearly as strongly as gasoline and it seems to work fine in most engines. Also, different gasoline blends in different parts of the country (or world) have varying odors, so yours may be different from mine in Florida. Overall, I have never found it a problem and my management has not complained.
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I am in the habit of emptying my Glow planes of fuel anyway - so if empty the plane of fuel eliminates the problem then I am happy I'll take a look at the links you folks have posted. Thanks,
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i just plug the muffler, carb intake and tank vent. no smell but i still like to crack open the window in the room they occupy. fuel cans stay outside...


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Same as ZAGNUT, have had no complaints in 5 years, now if she knew what I was doing the smell would be unbearable.
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I empty my fuel tank on my gassers when done flying and then i use the Jersey Modler electric gas can , It is completely sealed and doesnt exit any fumes or smell of gas in my van at all> i even leave the gas can in my van for storage. Even with the 90% humidity and 90 degree temps we have been having i have no smell or headaches.
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Geistware: That mod. to the original trailer is really cool...........
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After empting the fuel tank, do you run the engine dry removing the fuel from the carb?

Mark

P.S. I use avgas, No smell. Its the gasoline additives that stink the most.
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I have done, but with gas it is not so necessary. I don't get noticable smell either way. Unlike glow fuel, gas does not draw moisture, so that motivation is gone. I don't run my weedeater dry either and it doesn't complain.

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my experience is the opposite. no matter what I did, the gas odor was detectable inside. You can empty the fuel tank and run the engine out, but there will always be residue in the engine and tank for quite a while. my solution was to switch to kerosine, oil, and a little 107 octane boost for good measure.
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Yes it stinks very much! The first time I ran my engine one of the fuel lines broke and gas spilled all in the airplane. Now I have to work on the plane outside because I cannot get rid of the smell. Is there any kind of spray that can eliminate that smell, ANYTHING?
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Maybe some spray electronics cleaner.......

Anybody running Coleman white gas exclusively?
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Maybe some spray electronics cleaner.......

Anybody running Coleman white gas exclusively?
Yes. The only bad thing is the cost.
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Maybe some spray electronics cleaner.......

Anybody running Coleman white gas exclusively?
I am also, cost isn't much. I haven't spent what I do for 1 gallon of glow in white gas yet!
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A friend recomended simple green to get ride of the smell that may be on your hands I also use it to wipe down the plane it does a good job of eliminating the stink. If you have a portable power kit that is sold for cars they come with a big 12v battery, light, inverter, and tire pump. You can put a adapter on the inflator and plug it into you fuel tank then run the tire pump in your empty fuel tank to help eliminate the fumes that remain after the tank is empty. About 15 minutes will really clear the air.
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Change to Ave gas very little smell
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Coleman fuel is the way to go. It doesn't go bad like gas does either.
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I only run coleman on my large scale cars, I have never had a problem with it (1:40 mix). thanks to coleman fuels is why I can keep my cars inside, it will smell a little affter U use it but usually gone by the next day, and it dosent smell to bad ither. It smells like Zippo fluid, I think its the same thing.

I have never ran coleman on any of my planes just dont need to I dont keep them inside
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You should use the fuel recommended by the manufacturer for your engine, otherwise if you happen to need warranty work it will be denied...

I keep mine in the house but with the tanks empty and I have not noticed them smelling of gasoline. Plugging the vent line will prevent possible fumes from escaping, but if you choose to do that, make sure that pulling the vent line plug is part of your pre-start checklist.
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I drain the fuel out, and have never noticed a smell, and perhaps more importantly, my extremely sensitive wife has never noticed it either. Then again, I've never sprayed the airplane down with gas like previous posters, it stays in the tank and engine. I used to run coleman in my gasser helicopters, it worked well and didn't smell, I ran that because I was afraid of the smell. However, having experience with other gassers (DA, Evolution and 3W planes), and never having a smell with regular gas, I wouldn't waste the time or moeny running coleman in anything.
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Coleman fuel doesn't have anywhere near the octane rating of gasoline---Any engine that runs a spark advance type ignition I would stay away from Coleman fuel...If your engine has fixed timing then I might would consider it....You could run into pre-ignition problems with Coleman fuel on engines with a spark advance...

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Use aviation fuel 100LL and you won't have a problem.
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Use aviation fuel 100LL and you won't have a problem.
Except possibly for lead build-up.

AvGas isn't really formulated for 2-stroke use and lots of folks recommend against its use in model engines.


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