OK, it's time to pull the Yak down and get started on it. I've been one of the patient ones and not blasted BME about the wait, but the time has come to take the plunge on a new 50cc. Has anybody heard any "real" info on a release date, or should I go ahead and buy the DA?

I would get the DA. There is nothing but rumors right now about the 55. "Heard" anywhere from late this fall until spring. I am sure the 55 will set the standard when it comes out, but you have to chose what you can get now.

I would first send an e-mail to Kieth via the contact tab on his website and see what he says. If it does not meet your satisfaction then make the purchase decision.

I can't find an email address on his website. I'll try to call the phone number listed if I get a chance this week and then I'll post the "official" response here. If it's going to be later than October or no concrete answer, I'm going with a DA.

Well, I never could find any way to email anybody on the site, but I had a chance to call them today. I explained that I was on the waiting list and was wondering if there was any projected release date. She asked which list I was on, so apparently there is more than one. I told her I didn't know "which" list I was on, but that I spoke to Keith back in January to get on "the" list. She said she thought it was supposed to be released between mid September, and late September. Being that we are currently IN that time frame, I was hoping for a less generalized answer. I asked her when that answer was provided to her, she said it was about 2 weeks ago. I must add, the lady was very friendly and customer service oriented, but I felt like the phone call was a waste of time, unless of course the 55 hits the streets with the next week and a half.

hopefully it will come out before christmas

Don's Hobby Shop is no longer the contact for BME...I called Keith yesterday about another matter and got right through....

post in error.

Far as I know, none of the posts in this thread were deleted. It was just my last attempt to see if anyone had heard anything that I hadn't. So I made the phone call, wasn't satisfied with the answer, and bought a DA.

Oh gee thanks Silversurfer, now my previous post makes no sense!

The answer you got was why Don's is no longer a contact, people would rather talk directly to someone who knows....[8D]

Sorry[] I confused this one with another BME thread. BME is once again the contact for BME. Glad you got an engine in any case, tho.

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Been reading these threads, and I to have decided to move on to another motor, however I am trying to decide between a DA50
or and evolution 45. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have heard a lot of positive's about the evolution just havent seen one around here.
thanks

i have never gone gas before but have been reading up alot on 50cc or so gas engines and it seems that the better choices for at or under 17 pounds are da 50, bme 50 or the evo 45, and for anything at or over 17lbs mvvs 58, evo 58, or 3w 55.

If I were to get another 50cc motor, I would also look into a Taurus.

If I could not get a 55 I would look at the Taurus 52 FIRST, and not bother with lesser engines

AMEN

As far as weight goes, the 45 mvvs/evolution's weight is an ounce or so lighter than the da but the ignition module for the 45 is an ounce or so heavier.....

when i bought my da about a year ago all the research i could find said that the 45 needed the factory can to run properly and the weight was about 12 oz ....so i went with the da 50 that will run great with the stock muffler at around 5 oz.

Heys BalsaSteel I realize you don't know me from adam, but do yourself a favor and buy a DA50,,,

scottad
i have both,da 50,mvvs 45, i flew both the same day same prop same slimline pitts, same fuel,
da ran 7300,mvvs 7250,with a mejzlik 22-8,mvvs has a lot less vibes and better throttle response,both start easy,da might have the edge with bigger props longer stroke,more cubes that kind of thing,if mvvs would come out with a true 50cc engine it would smoke the rest of the 50s out there also the da has around 15gals. thru it mvvs has 5
ENJOY!

Ok, here we go.

If I had to do it over again with 50cc engines, DA would end up about 4th down on the list. I went with Brisons a few years ago and could not have been happier. With all the flak about engine weights the most recent chart comparisons shows that the Brison 3.2 is actaully lighter all up that the DA and old BME 50.

Power wise I have not seen a DA 50 that matches the Brison. We won't even discuss the midrange between the Brison and DA because DA really doesn't have one. That's been proven too many times to require reassertion. Moving away from Brison, my first choice now would be the BME 55 due to weight and power, but that may not happen for reasons that aren't worth further discussion. If it comes out great, if not, my next choice would move to the front, and that's the Taurus 52.

Reasons? Number one is it is currently the strongest running engine in it's class and may well also be the smoothest. It uses a CH ignition system which has been repeatedly proven to be the most reliable ignition on the market today. Some will say that they have had a CH unit fail, and that is true. From time to time one does, but you have absolutely no clue how many ignitions CH makes that you will never, ever see or hear about. They will also never make it to RC engines, such as you use them, but that's a story for about 50 years from now.

I'm not too worried about spending an extra 20 bucks or so for a good, solid, dependable, reliable ignition system. When I have a plane in a hover I like the feeling of knowing that the engine will stay running. It's almost impossible to save a plane from a hover when the engine mysteriously quits.

The Taurus 52 is stronger than the DA 50. The fact that many Taurus owners are running 24" props without damaging the engine is some pretty strong supportive evidence. The DA is good, but the Taurus is better. The weight difference between the Taurus and the DA, all up ready to fly, is negligible. About an ounce. I've heard so many people trying to figure out how to move stuff forward in their planes trying to balance a DA to let me know that the extra ounce in engine weight a likely more of a benefit than a hindrance. IF you're excessively concerned about 1, say again, 1 ounce in the final weight of a plane you're being anal anyway. Spend big bucks and have the airframe re-made out of carbon fiber if an ounce or so is something to fret over...

Price is another factor. Taurus is less expensive than DA. No arguement or discussion, that's an absolute fact.

And the clincher. How many Taurus owners have you heard of that needed to send their engines back for upgrades or modifications? I hear a lot of thinking in the background here, but I'm not hearing anyone speak up[8D] Admittedly, good warranty service is an important factor in making an engine purchase decision, but being reasonably certain that you won't need warranty service is an even greater factor. I like my engines to stay hanging on the front of the plane I want to fly today or tomorrow, not looking for that big brown truck to bring it back. That brings us back to why the 55 has not been unvieled yet. The manufacturer's certainty that the product will perform up to it's expectations and not require extensive repairs or modifications.

You want to get a 40 or 45cc engine to mount on the nose of your 27 -29% plane? Great, go for it. In about a month or so you will come to the realization that your plane could be doing a lot better with a slightly larger engine up front. Yea, that 50-52cc engine is going to cost a little more up front. But you won't have to spend a heck of a lot more later to get a bigger one, will ya?

At the moment there are two excellent 50cc class engines on the market, Taurus and DA. There may be a third with Brison but I have not heard any advertising from them of late, or been in contact to know what's going on there. The G-62 is actually larger than any of the 50's so I did not include it even though it could ultimately be the better choice in many situations due to an even higher power level. I deliberately left out a fourth and fifth due to the arguementative nature of the manufacturers/distributors when a problem arises.

Your choice, have fun with the decision

Good thing you put that last paragraph in there
4 lbs, $440...

You know if I was to do a 28% or so plane again I'd use your 62 in a heartbeat, but a lot of these folks are flat out convinced that it has to be a 50.