ORIGINAL: STEVESRCWORLD

i sent it back because it was not a quality product. it leaked gas around the reed block even after i took it apart and resealed it. the mounting surface was off by a little more than a 1/16 of an inch where the halves of the block meet. the muffler material is so soft that they collapse when you tighten the bolt's up. one of the spark plugs did not seal properly in the head and leaked burnt gas and oil down the cylinder head and off the bottom.

one time i counted and it took 81 flips to get it to start and it was this way every time i tried to crank it. i was running it on 32:1 pennzoil aircooled oil. i think that they could be good engines but the quality control needs to be tightened up on them. i just didn't have the confidence in it to use it in my new plane. and maybe i just got one that slipped through. it was turning a 26a vess at 5700 rpm's. i have a 95cc fpe that i know will last that turns the same prop at 6100 and weighs about half a pound less with much better quality.

ORIGINAL: sniperpilot

WIFPWCF Can i have you MSN to chat about this engine?

ORIGINAL: soarrich

Glen

What do you base that on? I've dealt with him on a couple occasions, I had one of the original 100 engines, he replaced it with the new version for free, that doesn't sound like a drop shipper's responds to a engine that wasn't 100%. I don't know if he owns the company, but it seems that he has some connection with it and wants it to prosper.


I've not seen that problem.


Yes, I found that. When I get the engine I open them up, that's a easy fix I 400 grit paper on a sheet of glass and it takes 30 seconds to fix, or you could just use some RTV. Saving half on the engine you have to do a little clean up. From 3W this would be unacceptable, but because I open the engines to check them out anyway it's not a problem.


I get 6000~6200rpm using a Xoar 26x10, that's probably strong a 80cc, but I'm happy with mine new ones. I have two of his 50cc twins, 100cc twins, and a 50cc single, the 50cc Twin is a jewel of and engine, I like it the best. The twins should really be push in the scale market more, but some of use poor guys like having the choice of a inexpensive twin 100.

ORIGINAL: soarrich

It's nice of who ever makes them to cast GRpro into the new cases for Alfonso the dropshipper. Show me your case with HH cast in it. Enough said....

ORIGINAL: soarrich

Yes, I think Alfonse is learning about marketing and brand names.

ORIGINAL: Mitsu1

My flying buddy and I have bought, flown and tested GRPro engines from our friend Venon of CK Pro engines in Greenville, MS. These are quality engines that have been imported here for over a year and long before HH and SV knockoffs started to show up. wifpwcf claiming Alfonso is a drop shipper is ridiculous! Perhaps he is confusing him with Peakmodel of New Zealand, which is most definitely a drop shipper, as I've bought from them and all their stuff ships straight from China or Hong Kong .. but not New Zealand. Alfonso is the manufacturer behind the GRPro line of engines, and when he tells you the others are cheap copies of his design you should pay attention. You don't see official reps of SV or HH denying that fact, .. do you?

drop shipper ok here it is
my mum is a importer & exporter of 27 years so the info i have from the first lot of motors thet they were not made by grpro.as for there new line of motors i cant talk about.

I put money in some ones bank acc with out knowing them so i looked into it.The grpro sticker on my instuction book was covering some thing up so i peeled it of & another name was on it not hh,,,, so you tell me whos pulling whos leg.

as for peak there in nz so sending stuff out of china is the same as what grpro done to me but there in china

ask your self this,,, why all 3 motors that were sent to me were diffrent colours lol had diffrent mufflers 1 had a diffrent carby to & 1 is longer then the others,then when i tryed to start up my mates 100cc it didnt have a ignition sensor .the other thing was my motors were ment to run up before sent which they were not.the warrenty one was & it had a carby on it that looked well used eg very dirty.
so they were not all the same motors.

ORIGINAL: Mitsu1

My friend, .. what's the argument? We've been saying all along that the HH, and SV engines were not from GRPro. They are cheap copies made by other factories. So we are in agreement ... right?

Too many variables as to what this means, but I don't see this as some attempt to cover something up. Lots of Parent businesses DBA (Doing Business As)their branch companies with other names. Startup companies sometimes update their literature with the newer names, .. and in China some model manufaturing companies simply steal a design .. then use that companies literature as well!. I once bought a Flight Model Katana made in China. It came with a World Models Katana instruction manual in the box, and the two planes have almost nothing in common! The instruction manual was useless to me ... but Fight Model saw nothing wrong with grabbing someone elses literature and throwing it in the box as their own ... useless or not. As I said ... too many variables here.

My Friend ... perhaps we have a communication divide here. Just because stuff comes out of China does not make up a "Drop Shipper". A Drop Shipper is someone who takes orders, then passes it on to someone else in another location to have that order fullfilled and shipped. You said your suspected GRPro came from China ... well, thats where GRPro is located! .. so this cancels your idea that Alfonso is a drop shipper because thats where he is ... as well as his company .. GRPro.
Again ... your very statement helps bolster my argument! They are different colors, with different mufflers and such because ..... You guess it !!! ... They come from different companies! ... This has been our point all along ... the engines you got were from other factories .. other than GRPro. Your engines are the cheap copies that Alfonso spoke about. .. The HH, and the SV ... these are the poor quality engines that are muddying up the waters .