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Old 08-17-2008 | 06:02 PM
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Does anyone have any experience with First Place Engines? These engines look nice but I do not have any information about the company or actual customer experiences. I would appreciate any information that anyone can provide.

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Old 08-17-2008 | 08:19 PM
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I've seen several at my club and haven't noticed any problems with them.
Old 08-17-2008 | 10:36 PM
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Owned and flown them for years. I have run the 2.4, 3.2, 3.4, 4.2 over the years and they are all very powerful, user friendly, and reliable. They are top shelf in my book. Kurt is very helpful and his customer service is flawless as far as I have seen. I sent a 3.2 in for much needed service after several years of service and two crashes, and he turned it around in one week, as I recall, good as new with the old parts in the bag for my information. You won't be sorry if you choose one. Here is a 2.4 in a Christen Eagle I built last winter. As you can see, they are very nicely crafted.
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Old 08-18-2008 | 06:33 AM
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I have two, a 3.2 and a 4.2, both are good. The 3.2 is three years old on a SIG Sundancer and I have run the living snot out of it as recently as day before yesterday. It never misses a lick.

The 4.2 is on a Lanier Yak and it too is a very reliable engine. Ran rough during break in but now it runs without a hiccup.

Also, I agree that Kurt gives good service. I let the cowl on my Sundancer rub against the hub and the heat destroyed the bearings. Kurt fixed it and had it back to me in a week or so.
Old 08-18-2008 | 10:08 AM
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Thanks for your input. There seems to be very little information available about First Place engines on this forum. That could be a very positive thing because there are no complaints. Again, thanks for sharing your experiences.

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Old 08-18-2008 | 10:31 AM
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Thanks for your input. There seems to be very little information available about First Place engines on this forum. That could be a very positive thing because there are no complaints. Again, thanks for sharing your experiences.

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Keep in mind, they are a domestic engine produced in Pennsylvania, not am import. I like this as well.
Old 08-18-2008 | 11:40 AM
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FPE is made and produced in USA? I wasn't aware of that....i thought they we're a china based motor???
Old 08-18-2008 | 12:21 PM
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Yes, made right here in the USA. Kurt is the designer, fabricator, technician, and customer service. I think recently he has started importing some of his ignition boxes, and he uses Husky and Sacks cylinders, but that is all.
Old 08-19-2008 | 04:35 AM
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Greenville, Pa........just google First Place Engines and his web site will pop up. Guys at our flying sites have been using them since the mid 90's without problems.
Old 08-22-2008 | 08:55 AM
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Thanks again guys for your input. I talked to Kurt yesterday and ordered one of his engines.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 08-23-2008 | 03:00 AM
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The 1.3 is from a Echo /kioritz power tool. Note the three deltas or pine trees laying on their side on the head casting. Search: Don't forget Echo.
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I have a 1.3 installed in a Sig Rascal 110. I chose this engine because this size Rascal is designed to use the FPE 1.3. I have had excellent experience with this engine. No problems at all.
Old 08-24-2008 | 10:21 PM
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I ordered the 40 cc FPE from Kurt to install in my GP Super Stearman. The engine looks great and FPE seems to have a pretty good reputation so I am going to give it a try. The only slight concern I have at this point is that I can't seem to contact FPE by e-mail. I seem to have to call to get in touch with Kurt. My e-mails must be stopped his blocker or something.

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Old 08-24-2008 | 10:33 PM
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You will love that 2.4, it is a beautiful piece of work.
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I think they/ Echos are great conversion engines. FPE has done a nice job, wish I had one; want to trade?
Old 09-06-2008 | 09:15 PM
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I received my FPE 40 cc engine last week and I must say the workmanship is excellent. The only issue I have with replacing the 40 cc engine I previously had in my GP Super Stearman is the carb orientation. The previous engine had the throttle arm at approx. 90 degrees to the firewall but the new FPE engine has the throttle arm at approx. 45 degrees to the firewall. I believe the only way to connect the existing throttle push rod is by shorting the rod and then using a bellcrank to the throttle arm. This is OK but still leaves the need to put additional holes in the cowl for the carb adjustment screws. It would be much better if I could just turn the carb orientation. I don't know if that is possible but I will give Kurt a call and see if he can provide an adapter block.

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Old 09-06-2008 | 10:44 PM
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I received my FPE 40 cc engine last week and I must say the workmanship is excellent. The only issue I have with replacing the 40 cc engine I previously had in my GP Super Stearman is the carb orientation. The previous engine had the throttle arm at approx. 90 degrees to the firewall but the new FPE engine has the throttle arm at approx. 45 degrees to the firewall. I believe the only way to connect the existing throttle push rod is by shorting the rod and then using a bellcrank to the throttle arm. This is OK but still leaves the need to put additional holes in the cowl for the carb adjustment screws. It would be much better if I could just turn the carb orientation. I don't know if that is possible but I will give Kurt a call and see if he can provide an adapter block.

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look at my picture of a 40cc install in post#3 , no bell crank necessary.
Old 09-09-2008 | 02:45 PM
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I tried the throttle connection suggested by RAM3500-RCU and it worked OK. I can't quite get full throttle that way but it is adequate for the GP Super Stearman. I ran the engine on the ground for the first time today. It started easily, idled well and ran great. It does seem to have more vibration than my previous engine and yes, the prop has been balanced. I should get a chance to go fly it for the first time in the near future.

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Old 09-09-2008 | 09:46 PM
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I tried the throttle connection suggested by RAM3500-RCU and it worked OK. I can't quite get full throttle that way but it is adequate for the GP Super Stearman. I ran the engine on the ground for the first time today. It started easily, idled well and ran great. It does seem to have more vibration than my previous engine and yes, the prop has been balanced. I should get a chance to go fly it for the first time in the near future.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Mine smooth out some when they are fully broken in and leaned out. Yours probably will also.
Old 09-28-2008 | 09:02 AM
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I flew my new FPE yesterday for the first time. The engine ran as good as it looks. FPE is not cheap but it is high quality. I guess the old saying that "you get what you pay for" applies here.

Best wishes and good safe flying.

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Old 11-03-2008 | 11:03 PM
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I flew an FPE 3.2 and loved it. In fact I would not hesitate to own another. Just as good as a DA 50 IMHO and I have owned several.

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