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Old 10-30-2009, 08:40 AM
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Please post some RPM and thrust numbers on this engine, including prop and fuel oil mix. Thanks.
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Brand new out of the box, mine turned 6250. It now (tached Sunday, 10/25, at 72 degrees, 600' MSL) turns 6800 after 8+ gallons, all has been 32:1 93 Octane Ethanol free fuel with Klotz RC ModelLube. Prop in both cases was a WildHare 27B Bunny prop.

Don't have thrust numbers, but it hauls a ~25lb 102.5" WH Edge around like a foamy. Video embedded in [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9203615]this post[/link] for example.
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Industrial grade 90w gear lube at 10-1 in 100LL, 8,700 rpm with a Hartzell 72-12
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" Industrial grade 90w gear lube at 10-1 in 100LL, 8,700 rpm with a Hartzell 72-12 "


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THAT is funny !!!!!!!!!!!
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Industrial grade 90w gear lube at 10-1 in 100LL, 8,700 rpm with a Hartzell 72-12
LOL!!!

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Industrial grade 90w gear lube at 10-1 in 100LL, 8,700 rpm with a Hartzell 72-12
Good to see that you FINALLY saw the light and gave up on that Jet A with Rotella junk.....can't believe it took this long....
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We use jet "B" up here with a quart of transmission fliud per tank to keep them clean. :P
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Kerosene and corn syrup!
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Boy this thread went sideways fast
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Better than the Jet A is JP-5 and Wesson oil. Canola oil and corn syrup at 50-50 to the JP for sweet exhaust.

I don't have a tach....
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Thanks g,
Sounds like it doesn't have any more power than a DA. I'll probably get the DA.
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Stilll measuring power in rpm are we?

You'll like the DA almost as much as you would have liked the 111.
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Guess I fell into the trap. Thought maybe you were looking to compare an existing DLE to others.

Buy what ya want, enjoy flying it.
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My DA 100 has exactly the same power as my DL 100. I'm sure the 111 has more than either one of the 100's.
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I haven't run my 111's yet, but from seeing posts and talking to those who have they seem to turn the same prop the 100 turns about 400 to 500 rpm faster.
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It's not about rpm. Unless you're using exactly the same prop the other guy did when they tached their engine the comparisons for even rpm are useless. I don't mean a same size prop in the same brand and type, but the one that came off the other engine. If you're talking performance you should be talking torque and thrust. HP might even come into play if it's measured at a useful rpm and at the same rpm as the other engine.

I've been reading all the rpm comparisons for years now and the continued comparisons between this and that engine on this or that prop using this or that oil at this or that oil ratio are meaningless. One thing I do know is that the 111 delivers more torque and power in the same rpm bands as any 100cc engine on the market. Note I said 100cc, not 115, 120, 106, or 105. Trust I know EXACTLY what a DA 100 delivers in torque, HP, and other performance parameters on a given prop.
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It's not about rpm. Unless you're using exactly the same prop the other guy did when they tached their engine the comparisons for even rpm are useless.
Point well made...guess I just thought maybe he was unsure his numbers were close to right, and wanted to check...like maybe he thought he was getting unusually low numbers.

I've been reading all the rpm comparisons for years now and the continued comparisons between this and that engin eon this or that prop using this or that oil at this or that oil are meaningless. One thing I do know is that the 111 delivers more torque and power in the same rpm bands as any 100cc engine on the market. Note I said 100cc, not 115, 120, 106, or 105. Trust I know EXACTLY what a DA 100 delivers in torque, HP, and other performance parameters on a given prop.
And even given all that...isn't it really, at the end of the day, all about the subjective "I love how this plane flies" or "I want more _____" anyway? I mean, honestly...I don't have a CLUE what those numbers are for my Edge/DLE-111...and frankly don't care. I adore it, and that's that.

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FWIW I have just swopped out my DL100 for a DLE111 in my EF YAK and as one would expect there is an appreciable power increase. I have also run a DA100 in this bird and it was very similar to the DL100.

TOM is right about RPMs, they are pretty meaningless. I tached the 111 (about a gallon through it) with a 3W 27x10 and it gave the same numbers as with the fully run in DL100, but in the air there is a load more thrust. Before I needed to use full throttle on my IMAC schedules a lot more than I do now with the 111 - hover pull out is much punchier. I put a Mejzlick 28x10 and did get an increase of RPM on the ground, in the air it was howling!!! It would rip with the 100 setup but now is ripping most of the time and too much noise for where I fly[>:]

I am running Zimmerman canisters and so far very happy with the performance increase - maybe I should try some pipes
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And that is what it's all about. Does it do what you want ot to do and does it do it as well as you would like it to gboulton said it rather well.

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