RC Pile It

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Thank You Very Much Ken,

I was really ready to just throw in the towel, and tell everyone what my opinions were of both, and get back to flying, but I now have a reborn interest in this. I appologize that you had to step in, but appreciate you limiting the Soap opera scandels.

Are we(all) ready to get back to the "fun" part?... I know I am!

Again, I would like to thank all of the "sensible" people who are taking this for what it is worth!

ka9fax

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I sure am RC....lets goooooo!!!

wyo69cowboy

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Thank you Ken! I for one am quite tired of all the innuendo, rumors, and mud-slinging that goes on. I doubt anyone had any real proof of what's going on here, but there sure were a lot of folks that claimed to know of ulterior motives, etc. As many others have said, let the man do his comparo, and if you don't like it, don't read it and don't throw in your .02 worth. I am on these forums to try to learn more about many aspects of this cool hobby, and hope all the mudslinging doesn't keep those with real knowledge and experience from relaying that knowledge.

I come from a recent history in snowmobiling, and watched one of the main forums there devolve from a place to get real info and tips into a social hubub of opinion and little real info. Hope RCU doesn't fall into the same trap.

Tired Old Man

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RC,

Did some research among peers today and found a product that would let you do some port work a little down the line. Let me know.

RC Pile It

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Well put Wyo...,

Say, what altitude do you fly at?

I used to be into sleds too, but hurt my back, so no more sleddin'...Sucks!
I still have my 127mph RMK800 the thing was nuts to ride!, but I really liked the power!

wyo69cowboy

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I am a member of both clubs in the area, The Big Horn RCer's, and the Wyoming Sagebrushhoppers. We have a paved strip in Cody at about 5000', and a dirt strip in Powell 25 miles away at about 4400'. Not quite as much power up here! I have a DLE55 that was in a GP Reactor, until my carelessness caused a crash on the third flight (ran the batteries too low; brown out). I had about a half gallon thru my DLE, with several heat cycles during the first tank (done over two days in my backyard) and then two gentle flights. According to my Glowbee tach, I was getting 7400rpm on a Xoar 22x8 just before that fateful third flight

Snowmobiling is a bit higher here: mostly rode in Cooke City at 9-11,000'. Definitely notice the power drop up there!

atr42flyer

this is going to be good to find out the results. i can't wait. i do want to ask though has anyone used or purchased a Turnigy HP50 from hobbyking? i saw that about a week ago it was only like $230 bucks but now its $327. i thought for the price i might try one but now i might reconsider since it went up a $100. also they have an identical looking RCG 50 for $199. the only difference i see is that it has a cast crank case vs. the machined on the turnigy. i am sure there are a lot of differences but i am only judging by the pic on the website.

what do you all think about these motors.

edit: ok so after looking more into the hobbyking website they have a HP-50 spec engine at $239.95 also they have what looks like an identical engine maybe its just the same pic used twice? but the other motor says its a Turnigy HP50 5.5HP (De warehouse) priced at $327.19 so what is the difference and has anyone had experience with these motors?

wyo69cowboy

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atr, the price difference is because of them stocking the parts either in their US warehouse, or in Hong Kong. Saves u the time and some shipping cost, but they are usually much more than just the shipping cost difference. Same story with their batteries and other parts.

FWIW, I met a guy at a fly-in last June, before I bought my DLE55, and he had one of the new Turnigy 50's . He too liked the price, and said it ran fine, but did not make much power. He equated it more with a 30cc size engine. I've followed a couple of threads on the Turnigy motor, and sounds like the quality and power are all over the place; some good, some not so much.

RC Pile It

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I bought one of the Turnigy 52's, and it was very under powered! The thing was under $200, shipped to my door, so I figured, What do I have to lose? WOW, there is a reason that they list power output in Kw, instead of HP. When you look through the exhaust ports, you could actually see machine marks, so there is no way the ring would ever seal. It was about the equivilant of a 30cc, but sloppy exhaust. Sucks, but that is what started this whole thing...I had bought that engine based on price, then I needed a plane,. Once I had a plane, I needed a "real" engine to fly it...Just silly!

I will from now on stay away from "Turnigy" cheapo's

atr42flyer

Pile i had read where you posted your info about the Turnigy 52 but since the HP50 looks almost identical to the DA and DLE i wanted to get some peoples experience with that motor. thanks for the input.

wyo69cowboy

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I was ready to buy it too, cuz the pretty machined case and jug looked just like a DA. As has been noted here and other places, bling don't mean a thing...

JOHNS3D

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yeah...sometimes we are looking cheap things...and after we got them...we rethink again lol. Well if you want to spend just $100 bucks more you can get a DLE55 from china and it will be better than turnigy. Of course the best is get from a local dealer here in USA but somethings poeple want to save a few bucks.

RC Pile It

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I agree

Although the last time I looked at DLE from Hobbyking, it was $319, but like $65 shipping, so it really wasn't that good of a deal.

As you said, It is best to buy here, Even though they will still get some of our money, I like to keep as much Stateside as possible...

Thanks-

FoamRanger

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I've heard rumours about all DLEs are NOT equal... TBM has a little snippet about that on their web page. Don't know if some one is trying the same with YDA, just a little info for those of you looking to save a few bucks.

fw190

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Why buy out of state when DLE 55 can be had for $329 in the states. However said my warranty only last as long as some of my maiden flight.

dunk

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I had a HP 50 and would save a tad more to buy a better quality motor. When I first received mine I took it apart and had to clean out the shards left from milling the block also did not like the chinsey design of the rotary valve as it was not supported by a bearing. It had a magnet that held it in place and I questioned how well it would last. The magnet is not something that you could purchase from china so when you rotate the carb make sure you do not use longer threaded bolts even though there are only 4 threads holding the carb, it can break the magnet. Wlamart does carry one that works. I used permatex to seal the case halves since I had heard that they are prone to leaking and had to solder the butterfly on the choke so it would draw fuel when hand starting it. It was a booger to hand start so I purchased a Rexcel ign (big difference on starting) I dont think the factory ign was advancing. When I used a dynatron with the old ign it started right up. I ran 2 gal of lawn boy at 32:1 and then 3 gal of klotz at 50:1 and the best it would do with a 22x8 Xoar was 6650 RPM. The engine does look really nice and I can say it never dead sticked. I never felt the throttle responce was there like a reed induction motor.

The 52's are good motors and most guys are using a 20x10 range prop, reliable and easy to start just lacking ini the power area. Definitely a good motor for the price.

Sorry to distract from the original content of the thread.

my .02

RC Pile It

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I don't mind this slight wander, as I am still breaking in both engines, so it might still be a day, or so for tests, so unless anyone else is offended, please continue....

Thanks!

flatspinjim

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What a lot of people don't realize when they buy the 200 dollar engines is that they are actually spending 500 dollars. The 200 on the cheapo that they can't use, then another 300 on a DLE that you can actually fly. Cheaper to buy right the first time.

RC Pile It

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Thats A Fact!...Unless you just want a low powered engine to pull a plane around...Someone on here bought mine from me to match his own for a twin...Or, if you want to throw it on a 35cc plane(like Aeroworks 300)it would prolly be fine, for the money, but if you can possibly afford it, step up, and be a lot happier!

ka9fax

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Hey thats right!!!!!! only 100.00 away from a DA.

flatspinjim

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I wasn't going to go there.

ka9fax

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Lol,ya i thought twice but what the heck. Just joking around. we are having intermission now anyway.
tony

ispirit99

Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets??
I guess if you only get one shot at being a Pilot, you might as well look like one. LOL

atr42flyer

so where are we at with the comparison. did this thread die?

RC Pile It

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Not yet-

I am still running the heck out of these trying to get one of them as broken in as possible...

Any idea how long a gallon of fuel lasts when you are intentionally trying to use it up....