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Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
04-30-2010, 08:52 AM
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Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
As the RC-scene has a lot of engine choices now and the Chinese cheap engines are becoming popular then please elaborate your feelings about your own choice. I would need help in determining the right choice for myself.
04-30-2010, 09:12 AM
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No vote on my side because different engines hold different appeal for different people and tasks.
If I wanted pure power and light weight it would be hands down the BME 116. Tremendous power but it's neither cheap or a beginners engine. If you don't know how to tune or keep an engine relatively cool you will cause yourself a lot of problems. Great customer service.
If you don't know wanything about engines and think it should be run the way it arrives out of the box, then a DA 100 is the one for you. It won't perform as well as it could or should but at least you can always send it back to correct your mistakes at DA's expense. They've built their business around fixing their engines. About the same price as a BME 116.
If you are strapped for cash and are willing to turn a carb needle, a DLE 111 might be for you. Not much heavier in the ready to fly weight than the DA, with the DLE having a lot more power, much heavier than the BME, but reasonably priced. Fairly user friendly and a lot of support form the better dealers.
If you can handle the weight and the price the MVVS 116 is the torque master of them all. A little tricky for service work since the best service will be obtained over seas. H-9 does ok but tere are people that handle them a lot better.
You missed 3w on your list. Big mistake. Pricey and heavier than a DA but more power and a very well made engine. You have to learn how to tune a carb but once you do you won't be dissapointed.
RCS/ZDZ is now handled by TBM. Not always the easiest engine to work with and you'll want to dig a little into how TBM works their service policies.
One engine I didn't bother to mention since I would not bother with them. DLA is a clone of the DLE but without the quality or support. Buy one and it would be like buying an RCGF. You're on your own from the moment the menoy left your pocket.
RC Extreme Power is a good company to work with. I'd talk to Milton directly about his engines since he likes personal contact with his customers.
Good luck!
If I wanted pure power and light weight it would be hands down the BME 116. Tremendous power but it's neither cheap or a beginners engine. If you don't know how to tune or keep an engine relatively cool you will cause yourself a lot of problems. Great customer service.
If you don't know wanything about engines and think it should be run the way it arrives out of the box, then a DA 100 is the one for you. It won't perform as well as it could or should but at least you can always send it back to correct your mistakes at DA's expense. They've built their business around fixing their engines. About the same price as a BME 116.
If you are strapped for cash and are willing to turn a carb needle, a DLE 111 might be for you. Not much heavier in the ready to fly weight than the DA, with the DLE having a lot more power, much heavier than the BME, but reasonably priced. Fairly user friendly and a lot of support form the better dealers.
If you can handle the weight and the price the MVVS 116 is the torque master of them all. A little tricky for service work since the best service will be obtained over seas. H-9 does ok but tere are people that handle them a lot better.
You missed 3w on your list. Big mistake. Pricey and heavier than a DA but more power and a very well made engine. You have to learn how to tune a carb but once you do you won't be dissapointed.
RCS/ZDZ is now handled by TBM. Not always the easiest engine to work with and you'll want to dig a little into how TBM works their service policies.
One engine I didn't bother to mention since I would not bother with them. DLA is a clone of the DLE but without the quality or support. Buy one and it would be like buying an RCGF. You're on your own from the moment the menoy left your pocket.
RC Extreme Power is a good company to work with. I'd talk to Milton directly about his engines since he likes personal contact with his customers.
Good luck!
04-30-2010, 09:23 PM
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RE: Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
Yeah, what he said!!
But seriously, BME 116 because of power to weight ratio just won my vote this month when making the same decision.
Here is the all up weight including prop and some eye candy.
But seriously, BME 116 because of power to weight ratio just won my vote this month when making the same decision.
Here is the all up weight including prop and some eye candy.
04-30-2010, 10:13 PM
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RE: Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
I'll get a better pic after the bad weather blows thru this weekend.
It's a 12'4" wing span of a Giant Telemaster at 40 lbs.
Should be, just about right!
It's a 12'4" wing span of a Giant Telemaster at 40 lbs.
Should be, just about right!
04-30-2010, 10:47 PM
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RE: Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
Yeah Jody, it had a DL-50 on it that flew it around real nice. At that time it only weighed 33 lbs. I have added some extra strength and with that comes weight.
I needed more power as I am in the process of making 4 or 5 pods to haul up RC Skydivers. I am looking for foamy like power.
Should be fun !
I needed more power as I am in the process of making 4 or 5 pods to haul up RC Skydivers. I am looking for foamy like power.
Should be fun !
05-01-2010, 01:01 AM
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05-01-2010, 09:54 AM
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I have one of the original 112's. It has a very good bottom end and some other good features. My original was sent to me for review and critique, and not having yet seen the later versions I cannot speak for what they are now. You will need to obtain info from other independant owners for more information.
05-03-2010, 08:44 AM
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Unless they re-worked the exhaust ports the TMM 106 is limited on the size props it can use, especially with a tuned pipe. Good engine overall but needs some help with rpm and 27-28" props.
05-08-2010, 09:58 PM
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RE: Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
ORIGINAL: JariV
TMM 106? Tell us more please.
TMM 106? Tell us more please.
So that make the quality of TMM engine excellent!!!
TMM engine have very very realiable idel and very high RPM
For the RPM With JXF 28*10 has 6100~6200
Mej 28*10 with TMM canister has 6660
TMM engine is the lightest 100cc class engine on market!!!
I should have some vedio of testing soon
05-08-2010, 10:19 PM
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With all due respect, my BME 115 weighs in at 3.8 lbs and will outpull any other engine in it's class except an MVVS 116. That BME will spin a PAU laminated 28 3dB propeller, which is considerably more wood than the JXF, closer to 6,800 static. The current crop of BME 116 engines weigh in closer to 4.3 lbs, and there's still not another 100cc class engine that comes close to that weight.
Although the piston and rings in the TMM are indeed very good, the port locations in the 106, specifically the exhaust port, were located wrong to develop the kind power the engine should have made. Fix the exhaust port height and the TMM would be a most competitive engine of very nice quality.
Although the piston and rings in the TMM are indeed very good, the port locations in the 106, specifically the exhaust port, were located wrong to develop the kind power the engine should have made. Fix the exhaust port height and the TMM would be a most competitive engine of very nice quality.
05-09-2010, 02:14 AM
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RE: Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
What do you think about this one then:
http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items...100TWIN-H.html
It was too cheap for me to pass it by so I bought it. And now I can tell you gentlemen that I never intended to use these engines in an aeroplane but in a custom 1/4 scale 4WD car
I'm sorry if I mislead you but I needed to hear honest user opinions as well as downsides which I got plenty of. I'm sure that this thread will help also other modellers to choose their engines.
http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items...100TWIN-H.html
It was too cheap for me to pass it by so I bought it. And now I can tell you gentlemen that I never intended to use these engines in an aeroplane but in a custom 1/4 scale 4WD car
I'm sorry if I mislead you but I needed to hear honest user opinions as well as downsides which I got plenty of. I'm sure that this thread will help also other modellers to choose their engines.
05-09-2010, 08:46 AM
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RE: Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
One engine I didn't bother to mention since I would not bother with them. DLA is a clone of the DLE but without the quality or support. Buy one and it would be like buying an RCGF. You're on your own from the moment the menoy left your pocket.
The DLA is not a clone of the DLE. Maybe in the past there were common parts, but no longer. Just look at pictures of the 2 products and you can see the differences.
Support is a matter of where or from who you purchased your engines and other R/C goods. I have had an official Futaba repair center refuse to even look at my TX as it was purchased in another country. Called it "grey import". I have had the same problem with 3W. Support is not related to the actual product in any way.
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05-09-2010, 09:31 AM
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I cannot debate whether or not DLA has changed their product since it was first looked at about 4 months ago. I will say that if they changed they moved faster than any company in that region ever has before. The "early" DLA 56 shared parts common with the DLE, common to the point DLE was cast into the piston skirt. That suggets many things, none of them good.
05-09-2010, 11:04 AM
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DLA IS a clone of the older versionDLE and started out using genuine DLE parts in placeswhere the pictures wouldn't see them. You have to go beyond loking at pictures to see it. DLEhas since left that design for a better one. Even though they have their suppliers send them general run parts without the DLE logo cast and forged into them they are the same parts.They've made changes to the outside tomake that not so obvious.
05-09-2010, 12:54 PM
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RE: Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
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No vote on my side because different engines hold different appeal for different people and tasks.
If I wanted pure power and light weight it would be hands down the BME 116. Tremendous power but it's neither cheap or a beginners engine. If you don't know how to tune or keep an engine relatively cool you will cause yourself a lot of problems. Great customer service.
If you don't know wanything about engines and think it should be run the way it arrives out of the box, then a DA 100 is the one for you. It won't perform as well as it could or should but at least you can always send it back to correct your mistakes at DA's expense. They've built their business around fixing their engines. About the same price as a BME 116.
If you are strapped for cash and are willing to turn a carb needle, a DLE 111 might be for you. Not much heavier in the ready to fly weight than the DA, with the DLE having a lot more power, much heavier than the BME, but reasonably priced. Fairly user friendly and a lot of support form the better dealers.
If you can handle the weight and the price the MVVS 116 is the torque master of them all. A little tricky for service work since the best service will be obtained over seas. H-9 does ok but tere are people that handle them a lot better.
You missed 3w on your list. Big mistake. Pricey and heavier than a DA but more power and a very well made engine. You have to learn how to tune a carb but once you do you won't be dissapointed.
RCS/ZDZ is now handled by TBM. Not always the easiest engine to work with and you'll want to dig a little into how TBM works their service policies.
One engine I didn't bother to mention since I would not bother with them. DLA is a clone of the DLE but without the quality or support. Buy one and it would be like buying an RCGF. You're on your own from the moment the menoy left your pocket.
RC Extreme Power is a good company to work with. I'd talk to Milton directly about his engines since he likes personal contact with his customers.
Good luck!
No vote on my side because different engines hold different appeal for different people and tasks.
If I wanted pure power and light weight it would be hands down the BME 116. Tremendous power but it's neither cheap or a beginners engine. If you don't know how to tune or keep an engine relatively cool you will cause yourself a lot of problems. Great customer service.
If you don't know wanything about engines and think it should be run the way it arrives out of the box, then a DA 100 is the one for you. It won't perform as well as it could or should but at least you can always send it back to correct your mistakes at DA's expense. They've built their business around fixing their engines. About the same price as a BME 116.
If you are strapped for cash and are willing to turn a carb needle, a DLE 111 might be for you. Not much heavier in the ready to fly weight than the DA, with the DLE having a lot more power, much heavier than the BME, but reasonably priced. Fairly user friendly and a lot of support form the better dealers.
If you can handle the weight and the price the MVVS 116 is the torque master of them all. A little tricky for service work since the best service will be obtained over seas. H-9 does ok but tere are people that handle them a lot better.
You missed 3w on your list. Big mistake. Pricey and heavier than a DA but more power and a very well made engine. You have to learn how to tune a carb but once you do you won't be dissapointed.
RCS/ZDZ is now handled by TBM. Not always the easiest engine to work with and you'll want to dig a little into how TBM works their service policies.
One engine I didn't bother to mention since I would not bother with them. DLA is a clone of the DLE but without the quality or support. Buy one and it would be like buying an RCGF. You're on your own from the moment the menoy left your pocket.
RC Extreme Power is a good company to work with. I'd talk to Milton directly about his engines since he likes personal contact with his customers.
Good luck!
I can pretty much get behind that statement.
11-23-2010, 11:18 AM
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I like the coments on the TMM 106I I have 2 and they both run perfectly. Nevre a problem. Theyll turn a XJF 28x10 @ 6200 RPM'S all day long and won't skip a beat. For those out yhere looking for a great engine at a great price this is a good choice.
11-23-2010, 02:06 PM
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A good engine indeed but fell a little short of what it should have done in torque when it was first released. I'd be interested to see how later versions have progressed. Quailty was very good with the 3MM/TMM engines.
11-24-2010, 09:14 AM
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RE: Which around 100-115cc twin 2-stroke do you prefer and why?
you know a flying buddy of mine bought a Pilot Extra with a TM 106 package deal last year.
the 106 has really impressed me this summer,it out spins the DLE 111 that our other buddy flies.
the 106 rips a 28-10 Xoar,most times when we go to flyins people always want to know what engine he has in the plane,because it is always the loudest ripping plane there.
the 106 has really impressed me this summer,it out spins the DLE 111 that our other buddy flies.
the 106 rips a 28-10 Xoar,most times when we go to flyins people always want to know what engine he has in the plane,because it is always the loudest ripping plane there.