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Old 06-11-2010, 09:26 AM
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Default 90 Degree Carb Manifold for Zenoahs

I know Toni Clark makes a 90 degree intake for Zenoah engines but the weaker dollar and shipping make them somewhat prohibitive.
Why hasn't a US distributor, someone like B&B made these availible?
Do they diminish the performance of the engines at all?
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They wouldn't be hard to make. I even thought about it myself.
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90 degree intake=copper water line elboe...silver solder a flate flange at each end. T. Clark mentioned how to do it. Capt,n
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90 degree intake=copper water line elboe...silver solder a flate flange at each end. T. Clark mentioned how to do it. Capt,n
Ahh, OK I see that now. It would be very easy.
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These guys have been advertising here on RCU. They carry the Toni Clark stuff, and seem reasonably priced.
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You can see the rigid copper pipe elbow kit there

http://www.vogelsangaeroscale.com/intakebends.html
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George Vogelsang won every QSAA event he ever flew in..He always brought spectacular airplanes, once brought two pulse jets capable of 300+ mph..A GIANT WW1 bipe powered by a 250cc ultralight twin, with sound effects for machine guns..Always wondered what happened to him...He was/is a German industrialist, said he had a factory on our east coast along with his Geman factories...Sold him a converted G62 at a QSAA once...
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Try this to find George http://genforum.genealogy.com/vogelsang/
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Default RE: 90 Degree Carb Manifold for Zenoahs

The cast 90 degree mount looks nice; sure wish I knew how to cast aluminum.

As far as the copper elbow, three thoughts:

1. When they made it/brazed it up, why not braze the brass pulse tube in place at the same time instead of gluing it on with JB Weld?
2. Why use a pulse tube at all when an exterior pulse setup is so easy to do?
3. One should really use a spacer of some sort that won't transmit heat to the carb with that elbow.

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Copper is a real nice conductor of heat
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Leaks are guaranteed if the flanges are not thick enough....
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Default RE: 90 Degree Carb Manifold for Zenoahs

Like Ralph said, those flanges look mighty thin. I have access to a waterjet so I would just cut my own out of 3/16 aluminum the put them together with Dura-Fix.
Is 7mm too thin for an insulator block?
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Default RE: 90 Degree Carb Manifold for Zenoahs


I have two of the Toni-clark G-62 manifolds and the beauty is that although they fit tightly against the engine, the gas passage design is sort of like a corkscrew and there are no tight radius turns in there.

IMO, a copper pipe and elbow design is never going to work as well.

Someone will just need to cast a copy of the TC manifold.

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