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rem0.061 05-20-2012 02:04 PM

Timing question
 
How do I know when I have the HALL switch in the right spot for maximum performance?

BadAzzMaxx 05-20-2012 02:13 PM

RE: Timing question
 
Here are two different ways it can be done.

http://www.rcextremepower.net/ignition_timing.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBXFpxWg7vY

Milton

The Ghost 05-20-2012 02:15 PM

RE: Timing question
 
Most engines run it at 28deg BTDC. You will need a degree wheel and check and reset if reguired. Won't let me upload the PDF. Can be found at http://www.dlenginesaustralia.com/dl...iewDoc&docId=9 half way down under Ign Systems- Ing Installation

Cheers

rem0.061 05-20-2012 02:37 PM

RE: Timing question
 
Thanks, I'll try 28 degrees. I'm converting a super tigre 90 into a gas engine, any tips for that?

w8ye 05-20-2012 03:25 PM

RE: Timing question
 
16:1 oil

rem0.061 05-20-2012 03:47 PM

RE: Timing question
 
How about estimated output; better or worse, faster or slower.

av8tor1977 05-20-2012 03:57 PM

RE: Timing question
 
Mine turns a Zoar 14 x 6 at 10,600 rpms. About 12.5 lbs static thrust. It was converted to roller bearings for me by Keith at BME and I run it on 20:1 oil. (Actually I got those numbers after only one tank of fuel through it. It might be turning a little more now.)

BME offers them converted, as well as www.lambertsrc.com

AV8TOR

rem0.061 05-20-2012 04:03 PM

RE: Timing question
 
I have a feeling mine might do 11,000 rpm on a 15x4 currently as a glow engine, but the carb has to be retuned after a while of sitting. I think that a spark conversion will help. At least there wont be as much oil mess.

w8ye 05-20-2012 05:49 PM

RE: Timing question
 
14 X 6 was my magic prop at 10,500 rpm

rem0.061 05-21-2012 02:19 AM

RE: Timing question
 
It is on a Prox 260 and the 15x4 almost flew it too fast.

AA5BY 05-22-2012 02:58 AM

RE: Timing question
 


ORIGINAL: w8ye

16:1 oil

Your answer raises a question. There is a notable performance loss between a 40:1 and 32:1 so how much more loss at 16:1?

rem0.061 05-22-2012 03:30 AM

RE: Timing question
 
Well, the engine already runs on a lot of oil because it is a small nitro engine.

w8ye 05-22-2012 03:32 AM

RE: Timing question
 
If you do not run 16:1, the rod will wear out.

With dino oils like Pennzoil, the loss at 16:1 is not significant.

rem0.061 05-22-2012 03:33 AM

RE: Timing question
 
Just out of curiosity how fast of rpm can most ignition systems keep up with? Can they handle 20,000rpm?

w8ye 05-22-2012 04:34 AM

RE: Timing question
 
20,000 is about it for the ones we use

clivemc 05-22-2012 10:06 AM

RE: Timing question
 


ORIGINAL: AA5BY



ORIGINAL: w8ye

16:1 oil

Your answer raises a question. There is a notable performance loss between a 40:1 and 32:1 so how much more loss at 16:1?
performance loss between 32:1 and 40:1 ????????? maybe you just needed to retune it. there is no power loss at these sorts of oil ratios in fact it can even be argued you will gain power...... search for gordon jennings moreis less less is more etc etc article. I have tested from 30:1 to 50:1 ratios and ended up now on always running 35:1 from run -in and always..... its a very debatable topic, but power loss is not a good argument...

ec121 05-22-2012 10:47 AM

RE: Timing question
 
Any oil ratio change is a mixture change. The needles would have to be touched up.

av8tor1977 05-22-2012 11:15 AM

RE: Timing question
 


ORIGINAL: clivemc



ORIGINAL: AA5BY



ORIGINAL: w8ye

16:1 oil

Your answer raises a question. There is a notable performance loss between a 40:1 and 32:1 so how much more loss at 16:1?
performance loss between 32:1 and 40:1 ????????? maybe you just needed to retune it. there is no power loss at these sorts of oil ratios in fact it can even be argued you will gain power...... search for gordon jennings more is less less is more etc etc article. I have tested from 30:1 to 50:1 ratios and ended up now on always running 35:1 from run -in and always..... its a very debatable topic, but power loss is not a good argument...

Yep, I totally agree.

AV8TOR


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