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Meekskin 07-19-2009 03:58 PM

3w75
 
My 3w75 is hard to choke. Seems like I need to turn the prop many many times before it will prime the engine. Any suggestions on what may be the cause or what I need to check.

nonstoprc 07-19-2009 04:31 PM

RE: 3w75
 

There may be a leak between the carburetor and the engine mix intake. Make sure the carb bolts are tight.

The other possibility is that various passages inside the carburetor are somewhat blocked. The best fix for it is to get a can of carb cleaning fluid from Auto shop (about 1 gallon), and submerge the carb in it for a couple of hours, and take it out and air-blow the cleaning fluid out. You need to take out the diaphragms, and the needle valve first though before the cleaning and assemble them back. It happen to my DA50 and the the cleaning process fixed it. I fix the carb of my lawn mower the same way.

Meekskin 07-19-2009 05:25 PM

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Thanks for the reply and I will try your suggestions.

soarrich 07-19-2009 10:05 PM

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When I bought my 3W75 from my friend he said it takes 17 flips to choke then 7 to start. I took off the choke plate and closed the hole in it with soldier. now it Chokes in 3~4 flips, starts in 2~3 flips.

Meekskin 07-19-2009 10:12 PM

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Do you have any pics of what you did. Not sure what hole you are talking about. Mine takes about 20 flips to choke and 10 to start

soarrich 07-20-2009 06:08 AM

RE: 3w75
 


ORIGINAL: Meekskin

Mine takes about 20 flips to choke and 10 to start
That's normal until you do the fix. I don't have any pictures, but I'll see if I can take some today.

Meekskin 07-20-2009 10:30 AM

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soarrich, thanks a lot and I appreciate your effort to get some pics. Look forward to getting them.

Ken

soarrich 07-20-2009 08:41 PM

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Last time I had it out it was hard starting, now I know why. The aluminum tape I used is gone. I stopped using the tape a couple of months ago when I found how easy it easy to soldier the hole closed. I decided to fix the choke plate using soldier this time, it turns out it's much easier to soldier a hole closed than it is to soldier the edge of a choke plate. Here's what works:
Hold the plate with pliers and soldier the choke plate with it laying on something that soldier won't stick to. I used an aluminum plate held in a vice, this lets the soldier flow on both sides of the choke plate. After the soldier is cooled file the soldier off, then use the file to refinish the choke plate into a round disc. I made the mistake of hammering the plate to flatten the soldier at first, this stretched the brass plate out of round, so don't hammer it. Even though the edge soldiering is much harder to do than soldiering a hole it still only takes 15 minutes to do, a hole takes about 30 seconds, so it's easy.

Meekskin 07-20-2009 08:50 PM

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soarrich, thanks a lot for the information and the pics. Now I understand what hole you are talking about. I was about to solder the wrong one. What you have done makes a lot of sense and I will be fixing mine tomorrow. The pics are worth a thousand words. Does the plate come out by removing the one screw? Thanks again, Ken

soarrich 07-20-2009 09:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Meekskin

soarrich, thanks a lot for the information and the pics. Now I understand what hole you are talking about. I was about to solder the wrong one. What you have done makes a lot of sense and I will be fixing mine tomorrow. The pics are worth a thousand words. Does the plate come out by removing the one screw? Thanks again, Ken
Yes. After you soldier it you have to file it back to the same thickness, unlike the Walbro carbs where the plate sits on the shaft, this plate goes through a slit in the shaft, then held in place with the screw.

Let me know how you like it's starting after you soldier it, my friend that sold me the engine nearly fell over when it started so easy.[sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]

Meekskin 07-20-2009 09:27 PM

RE: 3w75
 
I will make the mod. tomorrow and let you know how it starts. Looking forward to getting it done to see if it helps. Thanks again,

Meekskin 07-21-2009 06:41 PM

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Rich,

Here is the results of your suggestions. I haven't tried it yet, but will tomorrow or thursday. I will let you know how it works. Thanks again, Ken

wellsalot 07-21-2009 07:01 PM

RE: 3w75
 
Please be sure you restake the screw you removed , engines do not like those little screws inside. Don't ask me how I know this. lol

Meekskin 07-21-2009 07:36 PM

RE: 3w75
 
That would not be a good thing. I did use lock tite to make sure it doesn't come off. I know this will help with the starting.

soarrich 07-21-2009 07:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: Meekskin

Rich,

Here is the results of your suggestions.
Nice job soldiering.

Meekskin 07-21-2009 08:09 PM

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Thanks,,,,Like you said, it took about 15 minutes to do. Hardest part was the filing to get the solder smooth so it would fit back into the slot.

Meekskin 07-23-2009 05:02 PM

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Started my 3w75 this morning for the first time after the carb mod. I turned the prop 7 times to prime the engine, turned on the ing. and tried to start. The engine was flooded, so I opened the choke and the engine started on about the 5 flip. It sure works a lot better than before the carb mod. Now all I need to do is determine how many turns it takes to prime the engine and then turn on the ing. to start. I am guessing about 3 flips but will pull the cowl and watch the fuel line to the carb. Thanks again Rich for the carb mod.

soarrich 07-23-2009 06:31 PM

RE: 3w75
 
Choke it with the ignition on. It will cough, but not run, take the choke off, it'll start about the thrid flip.

Meekskin 07-23-2009 07:16 PM

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I'll do that when I go out to the site on Saturday. Sure is a lot eaiser to start.

Meekskin 07-25-2009 04:06 PM

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Ok guys,,,,,my 3w 75 started on the 5 flip....What a difference the carb mod. makes. Before the fix, at least 20 flips to start. Now 5 and I think it will start in 3 flips. Will be going out Tuesday and will try it again.

thanks to Rich


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