darrentpi

Aside from using the spring starters, for the g-62, is there an other option for starting, like gloves, and the old fashioned way, as the spring starter seems to really add the weight. I'm tempted to use my hands!
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KidVermin

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Sullivan offers the Megatron starter. I have one that starts the G-62 very easily. It isn't cheap at about $130.00 US, but less than the loss of a few fingers.
The torque of the 62 should overcome the few ounces of the spring starter.

jbflier

The Sullivan Dynatron will also start a G-62. Aprox. $65.00.............

beepee

DM,

CH Electronics has a Jump Start system that will provide starting spark control for easy starts without the drag and weight of the spring starter.

Give them a jingle, (307) 857-6897.

Bedford

pettit

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G-62's, if adjusted correctly, hand start just fine.

But, you can't just put the prop against compression and flip it. At that position, the magnets are already past the coil and you don't get a spark.

You have to set the prop per the manual, bring the prop back about 90 degrees, then give it a good flip TO compression, and THROUGH compression. It'll be almost a 180 degree flip.

They start every time.

Zpat

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I've had a G-62 for a number of years. It's box stock and it's always been hand started. Once, when I was having difficulty in hand starting, I was advised to check the gap on the mag. I used a business card and slipped it between the mag and the pickup. I pushed the mag down on the card as it covered the pick up and tighten it down. It now starts easier than ever.

RTK

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OR you could call Ralph Cunningham aka RCING1 have him convert it to electronic and start it with 1 finger. Runs much smooooother on the low end also.

planebuilder66

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I kinda like my fingers and choose to use the spring starter, the motor will not show any lag from the one-way bearing. My G-45 will tack to 7000 on the ground and idle smooth at 1900. The weight is marginal in compairison to what your planning to put it in. On the lighest end, your looking at a 16-17 lbs. aircraft, adding a spring starter is not going to hurt it at all. Electronic ignitions are superior in performance but need batteries, They also shave a few ounces off the total weight but can be tempermental if the juice gets low. I just stick with the magnito and if I was looking for serious power to weight ratios I would buy a bme, first plane, 3w or similar. Keep the zenoah simple and yourself safe, that's more important than shaving ounces. Just remember that bigger gas engines are like electricity, you can't be afraid of them, but you have to respect them and know when your getting dangerous.
Just my thoughts.

WILDMAN 420

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Go with what RTK suggests, not only is it easier to start but safer, the ignition is retarded for starting, and then as you advance the throttle the ignition is advanced, much the same as the brison, and not only that they are lighter it eliminates the big heavy magneto, and replaces it with all the electronics in a bell mount, ill post pics tomorrow night of mine for you. They also have more power, as teh advaced timing gives better top end

darrentpi

Hey thanks, I would like to see those picks, I just cant see starting this thing by hand do to the amount of compression, can see it opting to tip the plane over to one side.
Thanks
DM

darrentpi

Is there a method in starting, do you wear gloves, or just give it a flick at the compression stroke?
Thanks
DM

markdam

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heres a pic my RCIGNITION conversion SWEET and starts soooooo easy

Zpat

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I understand that starting is much easier when it has an ignition conversion.
I use a heavy fleeced lined leather glove and the prop has to be in the proper positon to insure there is sufficient speed to fire the coil.
The entire procedure is based on the speed of the magnets as they pass the coil. It has to be an aggressive flip.

darrentpi

Nice pick thanks, whats the control linkage to the hub for?
Darren

markdam

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spark advance it was a mechanical conversion they heve electronic advance now but mechanical is solid!!!!!!!!!!!
heres a another pic

dorjes

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Install the prop at 10:00 or so when it hits compression - it's described in the Zenoah manual. I use a winter work glove that's leather faced and padded on both sides. My procedure is choke on, full throttle, ignition off , prop through until you hear a "squishy " sound from the carb , choke off, ignition off, prop through a couple of times , back to idle, ignition on, starts 1st or second flip reliably. I like the simplicity of the magneto. The key to starting , as Dick Pettit said, is the correct placement of the prop - you have to get the prop moving before you hit compression to get a good spark. Setting the prop at 10:00 facing the plane allows you to get a good swing. It's really easy, and foolproof.

Dorin Luck

darrentpi

Thanks those are great picks, what size is that prop?
Darren

markdam

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zinger 22x10 pulls 28-30 lbs of thrust

jw637362

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@ darrentpi,
Hello - I recently purchased my first gasser. A zenoah G62. I was very intimidated by the size of the engine and prop / 22-10 zinger coming from .60 size aircraft. With the help of a fellow club member, I have learned how to flip the engine / hand starting and there really is'nt anything to it. Once the engine is tuned/low idle - mine likes to be a little wet in the carb and flip it from bottom stroke to pull though the magneto to gather a full spark. It starts at the second to third flip pretty much everytime. I do not have alot of money to purchase the electronic ignitions and etc, but I can tell you that My G-62 starts just as well as the G-62 at the feild with the C&H ignition installed. Although his runs at higher speeds a Little smoother.
I love this engine and it is quite powerful!! happy flying

darrentpi

Hi thanks for the input on starting these g62 beasts, Is best to bring prop around to compresion stroke, then give it a good flip, is that the trick.
Thanks
Darren

DGrant

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I use a home-made chicken-stick. Made out of 1/2" dowel(I think thats the size), and covered with 1/2" I.D. clear tubing. It's about 8"'s long, and the tube covers entire length. I use clear because the black does leave residue, and will mark up the prop badly. I've used the sticks for years, with no prob at all. I have used a glove, and the first time I got bit(yes, the glove did save a cut or worse), it was extreme pain.

Electronic ignition will help dramatically though in alot of ways, not to mention hopefullly take off some weight of that flywheel. I dont know what the over-all weight savings is though, as there is still a battery pack and module with the electronic ign.