Don Smith Cessna T-50
12-09-2010, 09:31 PM
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Rich,
Based on my research, of the several different "Sky King" T-50 paint schemes out there, the one used on your pic is most likey the one used in the show for the bulk of the air to air shots. I think it's the one I'm going to go with.
Joel
Based on my research, of the several different "Sky King" T-50 paint schemes out there, the one used on your pic is most likey the one used in the show for the bulk of the air to air shots. I think it's the one I'm going to go with.
Joel
12-09-2010, 10:23 PM
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RE: Don Smith Cessna T-50
.....I agree with you Joel........that is the color scheme that I found to be true thru my research.........I started out with the idea of building the Songbird.........but I realized that it had been modified to eliminate the green house windows above the cockpit........but I wanted these windows because you can really see all of the detail in the cockpit....so the Songbird was ruled out in favor of a military version which all had these windows.......so, my choices were the AT-8......the AT-17.......the UC-78........the Navy JRC-1........or the Canadian Crane I or II........I have documentation for a particular UC-78 owned by Jon Larson, president of a Bobcat club called the "Flying Bobcats".......it will be modeled after the original AAF aircraft that he purchased in 1995.......
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12-10-2010, 09:17 AM
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Rich, in reference to the picture problem I just found the following dated 12/3/2010.
We're working on resolving the image problem and should have it done soon. The end result with the increased speed RCU will see as a result of the migration will be worth a few of these little glitches that need ironing out. Thanks for you patience.
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We're working on resolving the image problem and should have it done soon. The end result with the increased speed RCU will see as a result of the migration will be worth a few of these little glitches that need ironing out. Thanks for you patience.
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12-10-2010, 03:49 PM
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RE: Don Smith Cessna T-50
....Thats right Jeff..........Cessna was building single engine planes up until 1939 when president of the company, Dwane Wallace saw a need in the commercial market for a light twin........it went on the drawing board and by 1940 they had a prototype ready for testing......I will sent a photo of that one of a kind prototype being flown by Dwane Wallace himself........it was a very successful first flight.......it went back for a number of modifications.......most notable was the design of the front windshield.....which was squared, sort of like the shape of the DC-3........the other was the nacelles which were hand made in sections and then on to a two peice stamping........much more streamline.......Cessna began to advertise shortly there after and started getting orders in early 1941............the customer could order them in any color that they choose.......unlike Henry Ford and his Model-T...........he once said that "you can have one in any color you want.......as long as it is black!...........Cessna probably said.....you can have one in any color you want ......except for black..............Cessna built a few commercial versions before the threat of war loomed on the horizon.......then, the AAF and the RCAF saw a need for an advance twin engine trainer for pilots advancing from single to multi engine aircraft..........Cessna won a big contract to build trainers for theUSAAF, US Navy, Canada andthe UK...........The T-50 Bobcat was re-designated the AAF AT-8,Advanced Trainer.......the AT-17, the UC-78, utility cargo.........USNavy, JRC-1, and the Canadian Crane..........itevenhad nick-names given to it by the pilots that flew her, like the double brested Cub......bamboo Bomber.....usless-78..........the engines were Jocobs and were often refered to as"Shakey Jakes".......because they were rough in the idle.........after the war they were sold assurplus, very cheap.....as low as $400.........Sky Kings T-50 wassurplus.........Sky King was playedbylittle known KirbyGrant........he played inlots of B rated western movies before he landed his role as Skylar King, the flying cowboy, with his neice Penny and nephew, Skipper and the Flying CrownRanch......The series wassponsored by Nabisco and was aired on TV every Saturday.........Kirby Grant was a pilotand flew his T-50 in all of theepsodes........the series was so successful that Nabisco purchased a Cessna310 in 1955 to replace the ole T-50 because it could not pass anannual inspection due to dry rot in the main spar.........itis said that Grand sold theT-50 to a fellow rancher friend for one dollar........
Rich
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12-10-2010, 05:06 PM
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....Here is a fine little 1/72 scale model of the T-50 by Pavla of the Czech Republic........I'am not sure if it's still in production, but you can find them on very often on Ebay for about $50.............here are pic's of the Canadian Crane color scheme.....
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12-14-2010, 01:36 PM
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RE: Don Smith Cessna T-50
Wow, Rich! When you research a project, you leave no stone unturned! What a great collection of pictures, info and parts! I've been chasing Chineese Chickens again so haven't had much shop time...had to put the Christmas Tree up as well!!
I received my gear back from Down and Locked and am very please with the conversion. Very smooth and scale speed! Do you know if the full scale T-50 had a staggered gear deployment...like the DC-3 for example.
The plans show a fiberglass cover on the botton of the nacelle covering most of the landing gear frame. Making that cover is my next step...shouldn't be to difficult
Thanks again for all of your help!
M
I received my gear back from Down and Locked and am very please with the conversion. Very smooth and scale speed! Do you know if the full scale T-50 had a staggered gear deployment...like the DC-3 for example.
The plans show a fiberglass cover on the botton of the nacelle covering most of the landing gear frame. Making that cover is my next step...shouldn't be to difficult
Thanks again for all of your help!
M
12-14-2010, 05:48 PM
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Hello Murphy,
Good to hear from you, To answer your question inregard to the operation of the real T-50 landing gear.........they were operated by a single geared electric motor located under the pilot seat (left seat) and simultaneously raised/lowered the gear via a bicycle type chain and chain rings (sprockets) to a jack screw at the gear..........I think the retract time was ten seconds and deployment time was eight seconds..................the jack screw by it's very design provides the up/down lock..........there was an emergency crank located in a clamp on the floor at the pilots feet that could be used to lower the gear in the event of an electrical problem......
Rich.
Good to hear from you, To answer your question inregard to the operation of the real T-50 landing gear.........they were operated by a single geared electric motor located under the pilot seat (left seat) and simultaneously raised/lowered the gear via a bicycle type chain and chain rings (sprockets) to a jack screw at the gear..........I think the retract time was ten seconds and deployment time was eight seconds..................the jack screw by it's very design provides the up/down lock..........there was an emergency crank located in a clamp on the floor at the pilots feet that could be used to lower the gear in the event of an electrical problem......
Rich.
12-14-2010, 09:59 PM
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RE: Don Smith Cessna T-50
Thanks Rich! Valuable information!
I've been working on the bottom nacelle cover...making progress but not quite the piece of cake I thought it would be...
I've made a template for the gear opening out of construction paper. My original plan was to lay up glass around a cylinder of the nacelle diameter but have scrapped that because the nacelle is tapered...so it's on to plan "B" which is yet to be devised...
M
I've been working on the bottom nacelle cover...making progress but not quite the piece of cake I thought it would be...
I've made a template for the gear opening out of construction paper. My original plan was to lay up glass around a cylinder of the nacelle diameter but have scrapped that because the nacelle is tapered...so it's on to plan "B" which is yet to be devised...
M
12-15-2010, 12:01 PM
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I tape plastic down over the nacelle before I cut the gear opening, then glassed over it with several layers of cloth and resin. Popped it off, then cut the access hatch, and then trimmed the 'glass piece to fit. I use BVM poly ply screws to hold it in place.
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..there was an emergency crank located in a clamp on the floor at the pilots feet that could be used to lower the gear in the event of an electrical problem......
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..there was an emergency crank located in a clamp on the floor at the pilots feet that could be used to lower the gear in the event of an electrical problem......
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RE: Don Smith Cessna T-50
Yea, Jeff...your method is the prefered method...but unfortunately, the opening for the gear is already cut...hence the need for "Plan B". I think I can use each side of the nacelle as a form and then join the 2 pieces...a little more work but considering the circumstace...not too bad!
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