Hostetler Cessna 206 w/G-62
I've acquired a Hostetler Cessna 206 with a G 62 that I am refurbishing. My preference would be to use a 3 blade as this would be more scale for this plane and I'm limited on ground clearance. However, I don't want to invest in a prop/spinner if it will be underpowered.
I think the plane is going to be on the heavy side.....which from what I've read, this plane is built pretty heavy anyway. Any thoughts on this combination? Any thoughts, pictures, experience one wants to share on this plane would be appreciated. Thanks! |
Can you give a guestimated weight, whats the wingspan? I fly a 29 1/2 lb Turbo Beaver on electric that turns a scalish 20 x 10 x 3 blade Mejzlick CF prop. It could turn larger, matching a 62 gas easily on a 21" 3 blader. flytreetimes
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Hmmm....the upper end on the plans is 27 pounds. I'm guessing 28ish based on that, but I haven't actually weighed it. Wingspan is 120" .....
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Any pictures of this cessna 206? I'm seriously looking at acquiring one if any arf's are made..
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I used to own a Hostetler Tripacer. It weighed about 37 lbs and was powered perfectly by a G-62 with stock exhaust. I was running a slightly cut down 26x8 Fiala prop, making it more or less a 25x8. Normal scale flying was at about 50% throttle.
The 206 is about the same size as the Tripacer so my guess is, that your G-62 is more than adequate. |
Thanks all for your comments.....sounds like it should be more than fine with a 3 blade. I'll post a few pics later......
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Originally Posted by hannah76
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Hmmm....the upper end on the plans is 27 pounds. I'm guessing 28ish based on that, but I haven't actually weighed it. Wingspan is 120" .....
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Originally Posted by hannah76
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Hmmm....the upper end on the plans is 27 pounds. I'm guessing 28ish based on that, but I haven't actually weighed it. Wingspan is 120" .....
It's been my experience that Hostetler's weight estimates are low. |
Grabbed an accurate digital scale at work......weighing this beast tonight! I'll post some pics too.....
Thanks for the input! |
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Tossed it all on the scale.....came out to 29.1 lbs. This does not include covering, spinner, and receiver. So, it will easily be approaching 30..... I may look at some things I can do to lighten the load a little.
Some pics below.....just mocked up. The fuse is almost ready to break down and prep the wood for covering. I haven't touched the wings yet. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2122863 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2122864 |
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A g62 should be more than enough motor. I have the same plane with a rcg 55cc. I converted mine to a 180 and it weights 28lbs ready to fly. It's covered with ultracote and has 6" Dubro wheels. These planes fly very good and are very scale in the air, hope this helps. I have some const pics in my gallery along with some finished ones. Also it swings a xoar carbon fiber 22x10
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mnoodle.....your plane looks awesome! Thanks for the input and motivation. Are your lights functional? I had kicked around messing with lights, but figure they would barely show in the day. I might do the landing lights in the wings though......
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A friend recently maideedn his 29 pound Hostetler Cessna 195. It is powered by an OS 5 cylinder 4 stroke. In the flight pics, I could see his light system was functioning.
He uses this light system. http://www.electrodynam.com/rc/EDR-117/index.shtml |
Thanks for sharing! Yes, I've researched lights a little bit, and the electrodynamics have great reviews. Post some pics of the 195 if you have any.....I'm sure it is sweet with the 5 cylinder on it.
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I am flying a Jerry Bates F4F Wildcat, 91 inch span 31 pound flying weight, using a G62 turning a Xoar 20 X 10 three blade.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2122939 |
Originally Posted by pkoury
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I am flying a Jerry Bates F4F Wildcat, 91 inch span 31 pound flying weight, using a G62 turning a Xoar 20 X 10 three blade.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2122939 Thanks! |
Hannah76 , yes the lights on my 180 do work and show up pretty good on a cloudy day. I went on eBay and bought 12volt LEDs and made my own set. The landing light buckets are from key chain flash lights and the wingtip lens is lexan heated over a balsa plug. I use a 200mah 2s lipo for power its light weight and last for days. I still have my 206 plans so maybe I'll get a box of wood for xmas. Not to many people build the 206,not sure why they are very cool bush planes. Keep us posted
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I had a Giant scale F-4U weighing 31 lbs on a G62 and it flew great. Youll have no issues.
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Originally Posted by mnoodle
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Hannah76 , yes the lights on my 180 do work and show up pretty good on a cloudy day. I went on eBay and bought 12volt LEDs and made my own set. The landing light buckets are from key chain flash lights and the wingtip lens is lexan heated over a balsa plug. I use a 200mah 2s lipo for power its light weight and last for days. I still have my 206 plans so maybe I'll get a box of wood for xmas. Not to many people build the 206,not sure why they are very cool bush planes. Keep us posted
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Found the pics above on another site of a Hostetler 182 build. Not sure if they were functional, but they were a nice touch. The site is in german, but even translated with bing I didn't see any info on the landing lights being functional.
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Originally Posted by stevegauth30
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I had a Giant scale F-4U weighing 31 lbs on a G62 and it flew great. Youll have no issues.
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I have my lights wired to a turnigy controller that I took out of an old foamy. It had all the functions like strobe, flashing and solid,then just wired to a switch
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Originally Posted by mnoodle
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I have my lights wired to a turnigy controller that I took out of an old foamy. It had all the functions like strobe, flashing and solid,then just wired to a switch
Planning on this scheme for the 206..... http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2123110 |
Any update on this project?
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Originally Posted by RonTins
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Any update on this project?
I've finished hinging everything. The servo setup was absolutely terrible in the wings, so I've had to gut and redo the setup there. The landing lights were added, wheel pants/cowl mounted, and a few other odds and ends. My plan is to have it ready for covering in the next 2 or 3 weeks..... I'll add a few pics.... |
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My goodness!!!! It's shaping up like a real Cessna 206 champ! A lot of the models out there just don't take on the true shape of Cessna's but yours absolutely does. A couple of questions... Where do you have your servo's mounted to control the Rudder and Elevators? Hangar 9's Cessna 182 has been the best so far I'v seen in terms of servo placement for the rudder and elevators. Not taking any credit from your workmanship... Its amazing and cant wait to see it fly. I hope you will have a camera crew available to film the maiden.
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Just my two cents but I think this plane will look and fly close to scale with an OS 320-FF Pegasus as the power-plant. It will tuck neatly inside the nose cowl and plenty of room to spare.
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Thanks RonTins! Yeah....honestly this airframe was in poor shape. I've gone through and remounted everything and reinforced some critical areas. Once I get it all back together, it will take a little cosmetic work to get it ready to cover.
I bought the frame knowing that it needed work.....I was just wanting something to tinker with while working on something scale to fly at the Nall and other GS events. The elevator servos were mounted in the tail sticking out. I'm normally all for this, but on a scale plane.....it just isn't right. I'll have 2 elevator servos and the rudder servo mounted up front. You can see the tray in the pic where the doors are removed. I opened up the bottom of the fuse to be able to get in and reinforce the red golden rod sleeves internally. I'm planning on getting 5-40 rod and threading my own ends for the pushrods. Should be a fairly positive setup... |
Originally Posted by RonTins
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Just my two cents but I think this plane will look and fly close to scale with an OS 320-FF Pegasus as the power-plant. It will tuck neatly inside the nose cowl and plenty of room to spare.
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2131663Hannah, the G-62 will fly it fine. I have a 1/3 Fokker D-8 that required 5 lbs of lead and now weighs 40 lbs (110" WS sheeted 3mm ply). It flies fine on a G-62 w/24x10 mez cf 2 blade. It's pretty fast.
Research for my big corsair I had found this: use G-62 with Mejzlik 20x10 3-bladded carbon fiber prop for corsair or hurricane. he had a Helldiver at 42lbs! |
FYI, there is a club member selling his kit and GT-80 on RCU.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/ite...itemId=1051096 |
Thanks for the info Firebee!!
Yes, I saw that kit..... I didn't have the time or attention span to start one from scratch. I was lucky to find one built needing some work close to me. BTW, I had to look up a Helldiver to see if it was an actual plane or just an expression as to how heavy the model you referenced was.....lol! yep....real plane.... |
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Got the tops of the wings re-sheeted. Now time for some cosmetic prep, and I need to make a decision on covering....monokote vs. ultracote.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2135386 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2135387 |
Originally Posted by hannah76
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. Now time for some cosmetic prep, and I need to make a decision on covering....monokote vs. ultracote.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2135386 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2135387 |
I've ruled out glass and paint....I don't have the patience to do it, plus covering will be lighter. On top of that, my goal is to make the plane nice without putting too much time and money into it.
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Originally Posted by hannah76
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I've ruled out glass and paint....I don't have the patience to do it, plus covering will be lighter. On top of that, my goal is to make the plane nice without putting too much time and money into it.
I can't cover worth a darn, so I lean towards paint and glass. Depending on the materials used, you might find that paint and glass is less expensive than covering. I may disagree with the weight thing, but it's not really important right now. Anyway, keep up the good work. I enjoy watching your progress. |
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You may be interested in my build, a Hostetler Luscombe Silvaire.
My plan is to power it with an OS Peguasus flat four. She'll have the wings covered in Solartex and the fuselage will be glassed. I haven't chosen the paint, but it most likely will be automotive enamel. |
Hi Tom,
Your plane looks great! The OS four cylinder will be sweet in it. Thanks for the input and comments also! I have heard from people that are good at glasswork that it can be done as light as covering. I'm not that guy though...... : ) Brian |
I have been following your build progress with a very keen interest. If only I had half the skill as you, I probably will be build one of these cessna's 206 fully scaled out. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see it finished.
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