(breatherless) new OS 4-strokes
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Greetings! The new OS 4-strokes look great except for the prince of course. Any owners out there? How are you injecting after run oil in them?
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Ernie
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I wonder about the longevety of the new OS fourstrokes since they have done away with the bronze valve giude/seats.
I wonder about the longevety of the new OS fourstrokes since they have done away with the bronze valve giude/seats.
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Oh, you mean like in the Chevy Vega engines, made so many years ago?
Nope. I want real bushings or ball bearings. That tells me that the engine was not designed to be a throw-a-way, like so many products are today.
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Oh, you mean like in the Chevy Vega engines, made so many years ago?
Nope. I want real bushings or ball bearings. That tells me that the engine was not designed to be a throw-a-way, like so many products are today.
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You don't see any Vegas out on the road either. There are probably more B-25s flying than Vegas still running.
You don't see any Vegas out on the road either. There are probably more B-25s flying than Vegas still running.
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What failures of the Vega can be attributed to the block material? Wikipedia has a nice writeup on the Vega. There may not be many Vega rolling these days, but there are many premium makes producing quite a few vehicles using the exact same block design without issue. This just shows that being unaware of technology is the only reason to shrug off a simple change as ineffective. Do your due diligence before posting inaccurate information about a product you don't even own, because you heard about something 40 years ago.
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What failures of the Vega can be attributed to the block material? Wikipedia has a nice writeup on the Vega. There may not be many Vega rolling these days, but there are many premium makes producing quite a few vehicles using the exact same block design without issue. This just shows that being unaware of technology is the only reason to shrug off a simple change as ineffective. Do your due diligence before posting inaccurate information about a product you don't even own, because you heard about something 40 years ago.
What failures of the Vega can be attributed to the block material? Wikipedia has a nice writeup on the Vega. There may not be many Vega rolling these days, but there are many premium makes producing quite a few vehicles using the exact same block design without issue. This just shows that being unaware of technology is the only reason to shrug off a simple change as ineffective. Do your due diligence before posting inaccurate information about a product you don't even own, because you heard about something 40 years ago.
OS Engines died with the passing of Mr. Ogawa. I have two NIB OS .55AX engines that I just can't bring myself to use. Why? They are ugly - and that is enough of a reason as far as I'm concerned. I don't doubt for a second that it is because of my age and experience. Truthfully, I'd just rather remember them the way that they were than be disappointed with how they might be. Yes, not logical or scienrific at all.
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Greg, I owned one! Trust me, they were junk through and through. I don't care what wikipedia says. Where to begin? Let's see, the distributor cap was always only snug tight because the rubber timing chain meant advancing or retarding by ear every day or so. The unibody construction was another name for cheap and flimsy. Everything was cheap and flimsy. The blocks had a nasty reputation of cracking. Oh yeah, oil pans out of cheap pot metal. I got to discover that on my own.
Okay, you guys can laugh at me. I owned a Vega. But, it was a GT with racing stripes!
Okay, you guys can laugh at me. I owned a Vega. But, it was a GT with racing stripes!
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Going back to the new OS, I think the alpha (FS-a) are the ones without the breather nipple (changed the bearings twice on my friend's 110). The new 95V has it on the right side (breather nipple) near the cam area.
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My 55AX's seem very beautiful to me BUT..... my old SX's and FP's are beautiful in a different and time-honored way.
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>>> The new 95V has it on the right side (breather nipple) near the cam area >>>
Ahhhh so they wised up and put a nipple on that new one? Does it come plugged?
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Ahhhh so they wised up and put a nipple on that new one? Does it come plugged?
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The wiki article doesn't mention the Vega engines porosity problems...the head gasket problems...and all the recalls...hmmm..
The Cosworth Vega was IMO the only "good" one to come out of the factory.
But to try and keep "on topic"...a couple of friends have the O.S. 1.10 and it looks nice...good performance...and quiet...but I (like a few others here ) wonder about their longevity.
The Cosworth Vega was IMO the only "good" one to come out of the factory.
But to try and keep "on topic"...a couple of friends have the O.S. 1.10 and it looks nice...good performance...and quiet...but I (like a few others here ) wonder about their longevity.
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I'd like to know who has put a nipple on the 81a. I'm afraid to put fuel in mine till I know how to protect it. Another guy in the club got one and pretty soon it started sounding like a garbage truck. He opened it up and the bearings were totally shot. Out of warranty, OS charged him a bundle to fix it. Now he's afraid to run it too.
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Jim, you have the right idea. Put the nipple in before you get going without it. Just pull the backplate off, drill, and JB Weld in a nipple. Check for location where no contact will be made with the back of the crankshaft, etc. Or flush the nipple off smooth with the inside of the backplate.
If the nipple is in the backplate you'll want to point the plane nose down when you inject a big slug of ARO. I use ATF and air tool oil mixed 50/50 but either will work fine. OR, get a can of outboard fogging oil in an aerosol can and you can squirt that in under pressure. It is is very cool to do and it forces the piston up to TDC when you give it a squirt!
Ernie
If the nipple is in the backplate you'll want to point the plane nose down when you inject a big slug of ARO. I use ATF and air tool oil mixed 50/50 but either will work fine. OR, get a can of outboard fogging oil in an aerosol can and you can squirt that in under pressure. It is is very cool to do and it forces the piston up to TDC when you give it a squirt!
Ernie
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Oh, you mean like in the Chevy Vega engines, made so many years ago?
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The unibody construction was another name for cheap and flimsy.
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Look for the CRC brand of fogging oil at any large marine department. It's cheap there, but expensive if you buy the Mercury brand or whatever at a small marina.
Ernie
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