Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
01-13-2005, 10:19 PM
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Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
I've just noticed Morris Hobbies is now selling "MARK" 2.10 engine on RCUniverse..now for $239.95.
They are showing same Commercial ad at **** for $229.95.
The MARK engine I believe is the same as the MOKI 2.10.
Does anyone else wonder why they are selling HIGHER here?? vs ****??
BOBZ
They are showing same Commercial ad at **** for $229.95.
The MARK engine I believe is the same as the MOKI 2.10.
Does anyone else wonder why they are selling HIGHER here?? vs ****??
BOBZ
01-14-2005, 12:05 AM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
If you are really interested, why not just email or call Morris to see what price they would sell one to you for?
Morris is not the first company to show different prices for the same item in various places. I don't think anybody ever wondered why Tower Hobbies have all sorts of different prices on the same item in their magazine ads, Sales Flyers, and online price listings.
Morris is not the first company to show different prices for the same item in various places. I don't think anybody ever wondered why Tower Hobbies have all sorts of different prices on the same item in their magazine ads, Sales Flyers, and online price listings.
01-14-2005, 10:22 AM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
I agree...search for your best price and the place you like to buy! For me..I just bought a MOKI 2.10 instead of MARK.
Chief-ArCraft had great price..and I trust the MOKI brand. It's going in my new Patty!
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Chief-ArCraft had great price..and I trust the MOKI brand. It's going in my new Patty!
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01-14-2005, 12:09 PM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
Mark, Moki, and DPM are all made by the same factory in Hungary. The only difference is Dave Patrick wanted his version to have a little less compression to suit the typically American appetite for high nitro glow fuel. Nothing wrong with that, and kudos to Dave for specifying his product to cater to the market exactly. Personally, I prefer the higher compression "Euro" engine tuning, since I like to use as little nitro as possible.
I just bought a Morris Mark 2.10 and the only difference I see is that Mark 2.10 has a retainer tang on the idle wheel, and the original Moki version does not. Either should work just as well.
As for the supplier... well, to each his own. Morris is local to me, so no shipping charges for me. I have good luck with Chief, too.
I just bought a Morris Mark 2.10 and the only difference I see is that Mark 2.10 has a retainer tang on the idle wheel, and the original Moki version does not. Either should work just as well.
As for the supplier... well, to each his own. Morris is local to me, so no shipping charges for me. I have good luck with Chief, too.
11-01-2005, 11:38 AM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
Guys, what kind of luck have you had with your Mark 2.10 engines. I'm looking at buying one but how reliable are they? I've read the MAN article and am wondering if it's all true. MM
11-01-2005, 12:48 PM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
They are VERY reliable. There is a certain combination that's works on these engines. I learned this combo from the old importer of these engines called Gerrard Enterprises. First break it in thorougly according to his instructions: run rich at 6000 RPM. Use 20% oil and some should be castor. 1-2 gallons on a test stand for a good break in. Then reduce oil to 17%. He recommends a K&B 1L plug. Also use 0% nitro fuel like Morgan FAI. It's cheap and burns very slow. I found another thing that makes my Moki's run awesome, the Cline regulator. I have never had a dead stick on either of my Moki's and that is the truth. err, Well I did have one on my 1.80 but that's because I could not get the Perry pump to work right. It never did it after that. Hundreds of flights.
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Guys, what kind of luck have you had with your Mark 2.10 engines. I'm looking at buying one but how reliable are they? I've read the MAN article and am wondering if it's all true. MM
Guys, what kind of luck have you had with your Mark 2.10 engines. I'm looking at buying one but how reliable are they? I've read the MAN article and am wondering if it's all true. MM
11-01-2005, 08:22 PM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
Please show me where Morris Hobbies is selling the Mark 2.10 for $229. Their site lists them at $300.+ Thank you Bob
11-01-2005, 09:13 PM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
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Mark, Moki, and DPM are all made by the same factory in Hungary. The only difference is Dave Patrick wanted his version to have a little less compression to suit the typically American appetite for high nitro glow fuel. Nothing wrong with that, and kudos to Dave for specifying his product to cater to the market exactly. Personally, I prefer the higher compression "Euro" engine tuning, since I like to use as little nitro as possible.
I just bought a Morris Mark 2.10 and the only difference I see is that Mark 2.10 has a retainer tang on the idle wheel, and the original Moki version does not. Either should work just as well.
As for the supplier... well, to each his own. Morris is local to me, so no shipping charges for me. I have good luck with Chief, too.
Mark, Moki, and DPM are all made by the same factory in Hungary. The only difference is Dave Patrick wanted his version to have a little less compression to suit the typically American appetite for high nitro glow fuel. Nothing wrong with that, and kudos to Dave for specifying his product to cater to the market exactly. Personally, I prefer the higher compression "Euro" engine tuning, since I like to use as little nitro as possible.
I just bought a Morris Mark 2.10 and the only difference I see is that Mark 2.10 has a retainer tang on the idle wheel, and the original Moki version does not. Either should work just as well.
As for the supplier... well, to each his own. Morris is local to me, so no shipping charges for me. I have good luck with Chief, too.
Volfy, I'm the same way as you when it comes to being a nitro scrooge. These days, nitro doesn't cost as much (proportionally) as it used to, but old habits are hard to break. I don't like using more than 5%. An engine that is set up to run great on 5% will also run great on 0% nitro. I'm old enough to remember when the only nitro plant in America went toes up for a while. Some of the substitutes that folks used (nitro ethane), still leave a bad taste in my mouth. So much for siphoning, I suppose. <G>
I am a little different when it comes to four-strokes, I must admit. I'm becoming addicted to that nitro "Whap!" sound with a testosterone packed four-stroke. Although I do still search for Enya four-strokes that do not need a shot of testosterone to run acceptably well.
11-01-2005, 10:05 PM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
man, where the heck was this 229 deal? I would have bought that in a heart beat
anyone sell theirs for 240? You can make 10 dolla!
anyone sell theirs for 240? You can make 10 dolla!
11-01-2005, 11:28 PM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
In jan of 05, morris was posting lots of ads here on rcuniverse at a low price....
but, if you went to their website..you could not find that same low price...
I do believe they have since increase prices again on their website.
P.S. if you need parts for the MOKI you bought at Chief Aircraft...they send you to Morris HObbies..
it's one vicious circle.
but, if you went to their website..you could not find that same low price...
I do believe they have since increase prices again on their website.
P.S. if you need parts for the MOKI you bought at Chief Aircraft...they send you to Morris HObbies..
it's one vicious circle.
11-03-2005, 03:54 PM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
Ed, you are right about 4strokes liking nitro. Many of my 4strokes don't run worth a crap on anything less than 15% nitro, which is partly why I've been shying away from 4stroke glow engines more an more. These days, if I'm not playing with gassers, it's the simple and effective 2stroke glow for me.
Morris had the "intro price" for a while, but no more. These Mark engines are every bit as good as the Mokis and worth the price. Politics aside, the parts are indentical and interchangeable, so I wouldn't worry if you have to repair old Mokis with "Mark" parts.
Morris had the "intro price" for a while, but no more. These Mark engines are every bit as good as the Mokis and worth the price. Politics aside, the parts are indentical and interchangeable, so I wouldn't worry if you have to repair old Mokis with "Mark" parts.
11-03-2005, 07:01 PM
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RE: Mark engines why two prices Morris Hobbies
basically last year, the main importer (Gerard Enterprises) stopped importing MOKI engines from Europe. The crankcase casting were redone with the MARK name and now imported in from Europe thru Morris Hobbies. They are identical in all other respects. Moki's and Marks are both ULTRA high compression no-nitro engines, take alot of running to break-in and produce gobs of thrust on FAI fuel. I've seen them run in Patty Wagstaff's, but not
with the same authority or verticle as a DA-50. I have a 180 and a 210 and don't plan on ever selling as they are like Gold in anybodies engine collection.
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with the same authority or verticle as a DA-50. I have a 180 and a 210 and don't plan on ever selling as they are like Gold in anybodies engine collection.
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