twin engines power? is it the same?
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twin engines power? is it the same?
i have read here that the power produced by twin engines is far less than a single cylinder engine of the same size. has this been the case for everyone? i am wondering because i am planning to use some twin cylinder engines in the near future but now, i am concerned that they may not have the power i am expecting. what is your opinion and experiences?
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RE: twin engines power? is it the same?
Our tiny multi-cyl engines will always be at a disadvantage because of the friction from all of the extra moving parts (almost double)over a single of the same displacement. As the engine displacement increases friction becomes less of a factor between the two engine styles.
My OS 120 twin has nearly the same power as my .91 surpass despite a 1/3 increase in displacement.
My OS 120 twin has nearly the same power as my .91 surpass despite a 1/3 increase in displacement.
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RE: twin engines power? is it the same?
Due to internal friction losses small multi cylinder engines have less power than single cylinder engines of the same displacement
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RE: twin engines power? is it the same?
I'll tell this story. One of my WM 40 size P-51's has a G90 in it and it is fast. A close friend owns the WM P-82 twin with a pair of 46fx's and that plane blows my "wings" off. Same hold true on another set up. Now this same guy has (but not yet flown) that KMP P-38 with a pair of 91fx's. Should be quite a show.
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RE: twin engines power? is it the same?
ORIGINAL: Cyclic Hardover
I'll tell this story. One of my WM 40 size P-51's has a G90 in it and it is fast. A close friend owns the WM P-82 twin with a pair of 46fx's and that plane blows my "wings" off. Same hold true on another set up. Now this same guy has (but not yet flown) that KMP P-38 with a pair of 91fx's. Should be quite a show.
I'll tell this story. One of my WM 40 size P-51's has a G90 in it and it is fast. A close friend owns the WM P-82 twin with a pair of 46fx's and that plane blows my "wings" off. Same hold true on another set up. Now this same guy has (but not yet flown) that KMP P-38 with a pair of 91fx's. Should be quite a show.
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RE: twin engines power? is it the same?
See for yourself the peak numbers on 15% Cool Power and MA k-type 16x6 prop:
OS FT-160 gemini twin cylinder engine - 9,600 rpms
and following are the numbers of some of the best single cylinder engines:
OS FS-120 Surpass III or E - 8,700 rpms
Saito FA-120s - 9,100 rpms
YS 110 FZ - 9,600 rpms
According to the numbers if YS 110 FZ performs like an 150 sized engine then the OS FT-160 is like an 150 as well. However the big advantage of single cylinder engines is better transition.
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OS FT-160 gemini twin cylinder engine - 9,600 rpms
and following are the numbers of some of the best single cylinder engines:
OS FS-120 Surpass III or E - 8,700 rpms
Saito FA-120s - 9,100 rpms
YS 110 FZ - 9,600 rpms
According to the numbers if YS 110 FZ performs like an 150 sized engine then the OS FT-160 is like an 150 as well. However the big advantage of single cylinder engines is better transition.
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RE: twin engines power? is it the same?
A twin's "transition" is almost instantaneous. My 120, 300, and 240 four cylinder react almost as fast as I can move the throttle on the transmitter
Where did you get those "numbers".?
Where did you get those "numbers".?
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RE: twin engines power? is it the same?
ORIGINAL: JettPilot
The guy in the post is asking about twin CYLENDER engines versus single cylender engines. You are talking about twin engine planes, which is a different stroy alltogether. The twin cylender designs when you get this small are very inefficent. Power will be down, but there is somthing really cool about having a twin cylender engine on an RC plane
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ORIGINAL: Cyclic Hardover
I'll tell this story. One of my WM 40 size P-51's has a G90 in it and it is fast. A close friend owns the WM P-82 twin with a pair of 46fx's and that plane blows my "wings" off. Same hold true on another set up. Now this same guy has (but not yet flown) that KMP P-38 with a pair of 91fx's. Should be quite a show.
I'll tell this story. One of my WM 40 size P-51's has a G90 in it and it is fast. A close friend owns the WM P-82 twin with a pair of 46fx's and that plane blows my "wings" off. Same hold true on another set up. Now this same guy has (but not yet flown) that KMP P-38 with a pair of 91fx's. Should be quite a show.
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Especially someone elses plane when they are competing against you.
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RE: twin engines power? is it the same?
In a scale contest?? You bet. Although judges aren't supposed to take the engine into account in judging, they always do. If you are using a two cylinder or say a five on a Fleet Biplane, the judges usually tend to grade you higher. I know I used to judge scale contests.