Muffler Design
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From: Lynden,
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Does anyone have info on muffler design criteria.. I need to fabricate my own system for a custom setup. I need to know how to calculate what the inside area for the header and can need to be, exhuast tube outlet size and best location for the pressure nippel, and anything else I need to know.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Randy
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Randy
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It is very complicated, and needs to take into account quite a few variables.
without study, use the cut-and try method, where the header diameter surface is 10% larger than the exhaust port, the stinger has the same size or slightly smaller than the carb, and the first chamber volume is 12 times the engine capacity.
Then do a study on mufflers and see to improve muffling/power. That may keep you busy a while
without study, use the cut-and try method, where the header diameter surface is 10% larger than the exhaust port, the stinger has the same size or slightly smaller than the carb, and the first chamber volume is 12 times the engine capacity.
Then do a study on mufflers and see to improve muffling/power. That may keep you busy a while
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hehehe
So true.
So true.
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It is very complicated, and needs to take into account quite a few variables.
without study, use the cut-and try method, where the header diameter surface is 10% larger than the exhaust port, the stinger has the same size or slightly smaller than the carb, and the first chamber volume is 12 times the engine capacity.
Then do a study on mufflers and see to improve muffling/power. That may keep you busy a while
It is very complicated, and needs to take into account quite a few variables.
without study, use the cut-and try method, where the header diameter surface is 10% larger than the exhaust port, the stinger has the same size or slightly smaller than the carb, and the first chamber volume is 12 times the engine capacity.
Then do a study on mufflers and see to improve muffling/power. That may keep you busy a while
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From: Lynden,
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Thank you this is very help for what I need. The 12 x engine capcity seems to be large.. if you check the area of after market mufflers such as slimline they come no where near that size and work great. Even the stock muffler would not be that large by my calcs. I used this formula: Pi x r sq. x length to calculate the volumes of the stock and aftermarket mufflers I am now have. The engine is a .91 Cubic inch. so 12 x .91 =10.92 cu/in My slimline that I am using on my other 91 is 3.6816 cu/in and the engine runs great.. a bit rough in the mid range but great high and low idles with excellent transistion.
Best regards,
Randy
Best regards,
Randy
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Sounds as though you are ready to go ahead and make your own muffler already without our help?
http://www.macspro.com/tuning.asp
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_42...tm.htm#4226613
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_36...tm.htm#3631654
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_31...tm.htm#3191124
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_22...tm.htm#2202637
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_43.../tm.htm#432974
http://www.macspro.com/tuning.asp
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_42...tm.htm#4226613
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_36...tm.htm#3631654
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_31...tm.htm#3191124
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_22...tm.htm#2202637
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_43.../tm.htm#432974
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Not at all, but good research means investigation...It is possible that there may have been a typo. So I did the math and compared to a known and they don't jive. I think that would be a good reason to question the math. I understand that the manufacture may have derived their dimension from exhaustive (no pun intended) testing that may not follow a rule of thumb equation. Consequently I need more information. I do not plan to build the muffler, but am working with a custom muffler builder. His size for the chamber was 3" x 1" alum pipe being fed by a 1/2 " x 1"header and 2 3/8" exhaust pipes. The formula agrees with the header and the pipes but again the chamber is much smaller and this concerns me. This seems to be true for every one of the 13 planes I have flying, maybe the formula I used is not the correct one for volume of a cylinder?
Regards,
Randy
Regards,
Randy
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if you check the area of after market mufflers such as slimline they come no where near that size and work great.



