Always remove the backplate!
10-27-2008 | 02:29 PM
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Always remove the backplate!
I just got a NIB magnum .32 in the mail. I removed the backplate and found this. A staple stuck to the crank! I'm doing a complete teardown because I could only find one lock washer in the box (there should have been two; one for each muffler bolt).
Always check before running people.
David
Always check before running people.
David
10-27-2008 | 03:07 PM
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RE: Always remove the backplate!
But then I wouldn't be able to hassle the supplier for producing a junk product. Nor would I be able to come here and vent my frustration at the poor QC, wait for exchange, it getting lost in the mail. I wouldn't have to make a trip to the post office. That would take all the fun out of the hobby. 
Yes that is still good practice. I might not recommend it with a YS, but a simple two stroke could still use this treatment.
Yes that is still good practice. I might not recommend it with a YS, but a simple two stroke could still use this treatment.
10-27-2008 | 03:54 PM
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From: Transylvania,
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RE: Always remove the backplate!
Once I bought an engine off thebay from a seller who turned out to be a psycho. When he finally sent the engine, after about a month, I took the backplate off to discover several tiny steel balls rattling around inside. After all my complaints, along with several other buyers and sellers complaints, this guy was kicked off thebay.
Terry in LP
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10-27-2008 | 04:39 PM
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Well, I must confess that even though the engine was NIB, I got if from an RCG member who had apparently opened the plastic bag holding the muffler bolts. The staple must have rattled around in the box falling into the engine (probably through the carb mount opening or the exhaust port).
Having caught the problem it's no real issue, anymore. But, I will always check "NIB" engines from now on (I always tear down used engines I buy).
David
Having caught the problem it's no real issue, anymore. But, I will always check "NIB" engines from now on (I always tear down used engines I buy).
David
10-27-2008 | 06:02 PM
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RE: Always remove the backplate!
In 1976 I bought a new Norton motocycle after they went out of business - literally in the crate. Changed the oil and filter at the 500 mile mark. Drill shavings etc. poured out of the crankcase.
Bill
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10-27-2008 | 08:17 PM
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Dave I think you will find my report on the same thing happening to my with my Megatech .61. [
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Brand new and metal shavings in the crankcase. After a good hosing out it turned into a good engine but I am certainly glad I opened it up before I started it or I would have a paperweight now.
]Brand new and metal shavings in the crankcase. After a good hosing out it turned into a good engine but I am certainly glad I opened it up before I started it or I would have a paperweight now.
10-27-2008 | 09:28 PM
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I'll look that up Jeff. Thanks. I have gotten in the habit of disassembling engines because I've been buying a lot of used one lately. I didn't inspect my AX .55 before running it. Fortunately, I think OS engines probably undergo closer inspection than some brands.
David
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10-29-2008 | 11:03 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ram Jet
In 1976 I bought a new Norton motocycle after they went out of business - literally in the crate. Changed the oil and filter at the 500 mile mark. Drill shavings etc. poured out of the crankcase.
Bill
In 1976 I bought a new Norton motocycle after they went out of business - literally in the crate. Changed the oil and filter at the 500 mile mark. Drill shavings etc. poured out of the crankcase.
Bill
Selling my '74 Commando Roadster was the biggest vehicular mistake of my life. I sold it to finance the purchase/restoration of a 1980 Triumph TR8 car, but that's a whole 'nuther story.
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10-29-2008 | 07:04 PM
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RE: Always remove the backplate!
found this. A staple stuck to the crank!
If Enya can slip like that then they all can.
With e Bay purchases I have had small screws and a big chunk of cardboard inside engines. One of those things.
10-29-2008 | 10:52 PM
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About 15 years ago I opened up a K&B 3.5 outboard to knock the burrs out to find it full of aluminum chips. Cleaned it out and it ran great. About a year ago I got a used YS 45 from a flea Bay dealer, you know, the one that if you look better and check all their listings they say “has less than a gallon through it, smooth bearings". The sleeve was oriented perfectly for the side port, the problem was it was a rear exhaust LOL. The bearings were a rust cake and I could smell the WD-40 used to free them. The big problem was, some one spun the engine and in turn spun the outer race which ruined the case.
I tried to contact the seller about it and got no where. For scoundrels, I now leave negative feedback at 89 days 23 hrs 59 minutes after the moment of sale, no chance for unjust retaliation that way. As it turned out in the long run I ended up using most of the parts to cherry out several other engines.
I tried to contact the seller about it and got no where. For scoundrels, I now leave negative feedback at 89 days 23 hrs 59 minutes after the moment of sale, no chance for unjust retaliation that way. As it turned out in the long run I ended up using most of the parts to cherry out several other engines.
10-30-2008 | 05:03 AM
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ORIGINAL: freakingfast
About 15 years ago I opened up a K&B 3.5 outboard to knock the burrs out to find it full of aluminum chips. Cleaned it out and it ran great. About a year ago I got a used YS 45 from a flea Bay dealer, you know, the one that if you look better and check all their listings they say “has less than a gallon through it, smooth bearings". The sleeve was oriented perfectly for the side port, the problem was it was a rear exhaust LOL. The bearings were a rust cake and I could smell the WD-40 used to free them. The big problem was, some one spun the engine and in turn spun the outer race which ruined the case.
I tried to contact the seller about it and got no where. For scoundrels, I now leave negative feedback at 89 days 23 hrs 59 minutes after the moment of sale, no chance for unjust retaliation that way. As it turned out in the long run I ended up using most of the parts to cherry out several other engines.
About 15 years ago I opened up a K&B 3.5 outboard to knock the burrs out to find it full of aluminum chips. Cleaned it out and it ran great. About a year ago I got a used YS 45 from a flea Bay dealer, you know, the one that if you look better and check all their listings they say “has less than a gallon through it, smooth bearings". The sleeve was oriented perfectly for the side port, the problem was it was a rear exhaust LOL. The bearings were a rust cake and I could smell the WD-40 used to free them. The big problem was, some one spun the engine and in turn spun the outer race which ruined the case.
I tried to contact the seller about it and got no where. For scoundrels, I now leave negative feedback at 89 days 23 hrs 59 minutes after the moment of sale, no chance for unjust retaliation that way. As it turned out in the long run I ended up using most of the parts to cherry out several other engines.
I hope you put that on a calender somewhere.
I would forget
10-30-2008 | 09:40 AM
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I had a new Enya 50CX a few years ago. I spent several month with no luck trying to get it to run right. I had had it with the motor and posted on RCU about the problems. In my post I stated the first guy to offer to pay shipping would be the proud owner of it. I got several responses and shipped it to the first guy that sent the $10. I got a response from him a few weeks later. The "E" clip that holds the wrist pin in the piston came out and was stuck in the side of the piston. The sleeve and piston were gone but he sent it in under the 3 year warranty and got a new engine. Live and learn I guess.
David
David
