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tigil 04-25-2010 05:02 PM

Saito 56 probs
 
Hi all ,my engine just run at idle and when I try to speed up the engine die.

I changed the glow plug for a new OS F and I tried a tank to the outside of the aircraft and I have always the same problem.

I removed the main needle and pumping gas into the carburetor inlet to remove dirt and no change.

W can I do ??

w8ye 04-25-2010 05:03 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
open the low needle some

tigil 04-25-2010 05:08 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
I would like to understand why opening the low end will resolve the problem ?

spaceworm 04-25-2010 05:19 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
You don't understand that you don't question W8YE. You just do it and it works. :D

Sincerely,

SPACEWORM

tigil 04-25-2010 05:44 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 

ORIGINAL: w8ye

open the low needle some

Some turns? 1 , 2 3, turns

w8ye 04-25-2010 06:07 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
Just 1/4 turn

tigil 04-25-2010 06:26 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 


ORIGINAL: spaceworm

You don't understand that you don't question W8YE. You just do it and it works. :D

Sincerely,

SPACEWORM
Rarely do I miss the occasion to become more knowledgeable and you ?

rcdude7 04-25-2010 07:40 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 


ORIGINAL: tigil

I would like to understand why opening the low end will resolve the problem ?
It is because the condition you describe indicates a lean mixture at idle, that is when you open the throttle and engine just dies. If you were to open the throttle and the engine sputters, stumbles, and smokes it would indicate a too rich mixture.

spaceworm 04-25-2010 08:08 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
No, next to W8YE and a zillion other resident experts on RCU, I know it all already. However, I thought I was wrong once, but, I was wrong about that also. Actually I do consider W8YE to be the expert and I was complimenting him, not disparaging you. My apoligies to you.:D

Hobbsy 04-25-2010 08:23 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
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Tig, one more little jewel, when the low speed needle is too lean it causes the high speed needle to be vague or even ineffective. In this shot of a Saito carb the "catseye" slot is where the fuel flows into the airstream, the sleeve that slides in and out over the spraybar is the " low speed needle", when the low speed needle covers up too much of the catseye you get the condition you've described.

blw 04-25-2010 09:57 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
Here is great reading on tuning Saito engines (begin at post #9) http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5843055/tm.htm

wcmorrison 04-26-2010 11:30 AM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
Go to http://saito-engines.info. Tons of information on Saito engines including how to tune them.

Cheers,

Chip

tigil 04-26-2010 04:27 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 


ORIGINAL: rcdude7



ORIGINAL: tigil

I would like to understand why opening the low end will resolve the problem ?
It is because the condition you describe indicates a lean mixture at idle, that is when you open the throttle and engine just dies. If you were to open the throttle and the engine sputters, stumbles, and smokes it would indicate a too rich mixture.
1 day before the engine was running very nice with this setting, and the day after, this problem come without touching nothing

rcdude7 04-26-2010 05:08 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 


ORIGINAL: tigil



ORIGINAL: rcdude7



ORIGINAL: tigil

I would like to understand why opening the low end will resolve the problem ?
It is because the condition you describe indicates a lean mixture at idle, that is when you open the throttle and engine just dies. If you were to open the throttle and the engine sputters, stumbles, and smokes it would indicate a too rich mixture.
1 day before the engine was running very nice with this setting, and the day after, this problem come without touching nothing
That can happen if a piece of debris in the fuel clogs the passages in the spraybar. Do you use a fuel filter?

tigil 04-26-2010 05:13 PM

RE: Saito 56 probs
 
I use a filter in my gaz can but this plane was in storage somes years


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