WACO YMF
09-05-2008, 05:42 PM
#7026
RE: WACO YMF
ORIGINAL: mrdhud
All,
Well, as you can see I put the pinking tape on one side of the fuselage. I don’t think I like it[:@] I’m afraid it will really stand out and look to busy. What do you think? I’m thinking about taking it off.
All,
Well, as you can see I put the pinking tape on one side of the fuselage. I don’t think I like it[:@] I’m afraid it will really stand out and look to busy. What do you think? I’m thinking about taking it off.
Once you get the paint going, I bet it looks like you want. The hard edges will definitely go away once primer and a coat or two of paint are applied.
09-05-2008, 10:28 PM
#7027
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Festus,
MO
Posts: 2,031
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: WACO YMF
Joe, Bill, Ben and the rest,
Don't take what I said about John Hudek's UMF wrong, I agree that it is a good looking "Waco", built with care and excellence in craftmanship even though it was not built exactly to plans. As Ben pointed out " a replica UMF-5 is better than NO Waco at all." I happen to be in the minature replica group, but do get to see the full size stuff fly every so often.
Dan-
I agree with Bill and Rick - do a test piece and see how it looks before undoing all that work.
Don't take what I said about John Hudek's UMF wrong, I agree that it is a good looking "Waco", built with care and excellence in craftmanship even though it was not built exactly to plans. As Ben pointed out " a replica UMF-5 is better than NO Waco at all." I happen to be in the minature replica group, but do get to see the full size stuff fly every so often.
Dan-
I agree with Bill and Rick - do a test piece and see how it looks before undoing all that work.
09-06-2008, 06:51 AM
#7028
RE: WACO YMF
Dan as the others have said don't give up yet,
I would give it 2 coats of highfill primer(Dupli-Color) and then lightly sand the edges and then paint. This will give the edges a subtle look.
Anthony
I would give it 2 coats of highfill primer(Dupli-Color) and then lightly sand the edges and then paint. This will give the edges a subtle look.
Anthony
09-06-2008, 12:50 PM
#7029
RE: WACO YMF
Stickbuilder & All,
I took Bill’s advice an made a sample piece and put a couple coats of primer sanding between coats and then two coats of white paint. Every one was right it really knock off the sharpness of the edges from about five feet you can hardly see it so I will finish the fuselage.
THANKS
I forgot to ask anyone if they plan to attend the monster RC show October 17-19 in Lake Wales Florida. It’s only about 10 miles from me. This is one of the planes that will be attending.
I took Bill’s advice an made a sample piece and put a couple coats of primer sanding between coats and then two coats of white paint. Every one was right it really knock off the sharpness of the edges from about five feet you can hardly see it so I will finish the fuselage.
THANKS
I forgot to ask anyone if they plan to attend the monster RC show October 17-19 in Lake Wales Florida. It’s only about 10 miles from me. This is one of the planes that will be attending.
09-06-2008, 02:52 PM
#7030
Thread Starter
RE: WACO YMF
ORIGINAL: mrdhud
Stickbuilder & All,
I took Bill’s advice an made a sample piece and put a couple coats of primer sanding between coats and then two coats of white paint. Every one was right it really knock off the sharpness of the edges from about five feet you can hardly see it so I will finish the fuselage.
THANKS
I forgot to ask anyone if they plan to attend the monster RC show October 17-19 in Lake Wales Florida. It’s only about 10 miles from me. This is one of the planes that will be attending.
Stickbuilder & All,
I took Bill’s advice an made a sample piece and put a couple coats of primer sanding between coats and then two coats of white paint. Every one was right it really knock off the sharpness of the edges from about five feet you can hardly see it so I will finish the fuselage.
THANKS
I forgot to ask anyone if they plan to attend the monster RC show October 17-19 in Lake Wales Florida. It’s only about 10 miles from me. This is one of the planes that will be attending.
Glad it worked out for you.
I'll see you in Lake Wales.
Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1
09-06-2008, 03:39 PM
#7031
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: humble, TX
Posts: 364
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: WACO YMF
Dan.
I agree with the rest of the guys, I don't think it will be very noticeble at all once it is painted.
Can you please let me know how many feet of the tape did you order and who did you buy it from? I do have the paper pinking scissors, but it is a long tedious job i am trying to avoid.
angel
I agree with the rest of the guys, I don't think it will be very noticeble at all once it is painted.
Can you please let me know how many feet of the tape did you order and who did you buy it from? I do have the paper pinking scissors, but it is a long tedious job i am trying to avoid.
angel
09-07-2008, 07:08 PM
#7036
RE: WACO YMF
Thanks Dan,
Unfortunately I think you will find you will need to order at least one more roll. I used 108 ft of rib tape on my Waco and I didn't do the fuselage. Gary was shocked when I ordered that much rib tape, I only had 14" left over
Anthony
Unfortunately I think you will find you will need to order at least one more roll. I used 108 ft of rib tape on my Waco and I didn't do the fuselage. Gary was shocked when I ordered that much rib tape, I only had 14" left over
Anthony
09-07-2008, 08:27 PM
#7037
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: , ME,
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: WACO YMF
09-07-2008, 08:40 PM
#7038
Thread Starter
RE: WACO YMF
NEW BROTHER ALERT !!!!
Bob, Welcome to the Brotherhood. You are Brother #113.
Let's all give Bob a warm welcome. He's going to be building a YMF from the AMA plans/templates.
Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1
Bob, Welcome to the Brotherhood. You are Brother #113.
Let's all give Bob a warm welcome. He's going to be building a YMF from the AMA plans/templates.
Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1
09-08-2008, 08:17 PM
#7041
Thread Starter
RE: WACO YMF
ORIGINAL: WacoNut
Thanks Dan,
Unfortunately I think you will find you will need to order at least one more roll. I used 108 ft of rib tape on my Waco and I didn't do the fuselage. Gary was shocked when I ordered that much rib tape, I only had 14" left over
Anthony
Thanks Dan,
Unfortunately I think you will find you will need to order at least one more roll. I used 108 ft of rib tape on my Waco and I didn't do the fuselage. Gary was shocked when I ordered that much rib tape, I only had 14" left over
Anthony
Two wings do take in a lot of acerage don't they? I'm presently adding the rib stitching to the Horizontal Stabilizer, and with the 7/16" spacing, that's taking nearly forever. Can't wait to get going on the wings. Lemme see here......all those ribs, and about 32 stitches per rib......Oh Lordy!!!!!
Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1
09-09-2008, 05:43 AM
#7042
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BLENHEIM Malbourough, NEW ZEALAND
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: WACO YMF
Just wondering if I could ask a few questions here about the lazy ace 76 inch power by a 26 gas motor its been rebuilt and over 14 years old not my plane but got asked to do the maiden last weekend 20 feet and she was up ( big smile ) right gentle bank and wow no response more stick “he thinks” then extreme grab with the right upper aileron this was set up running a y lead to 2 servos same day I put a rudder mix in results= a@s tighting to say the least just increased the reaction nice to fly straight and level lands easy in fact im sure there’s a brail stick with it does lovely slow loops straight and true it’s the lack of reaction to input in the turns followed by extreme reaction at the end of the stick travel so what ive done is this removed the futaba servos 3001s replaced them with futaba 9202s set then to run on channel 1 and seven and set up aileron differential 100% up and 40% down can I have your thoughts on this set up this ace does not want to turn set up on the y lead So I am thinking its extreme yaw or drag caused by the lower aileron I have checked the plane center of grav is spot on wings are straight and true and level with the air frame in fact nice plane any input here would be welcome cheers
09-09-2008, 12:54 PM
#7043
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Catharines,
ON, CANADA
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: WACO YMF
Hi Guys,
Had a bit of fun last night at my Flying Club monthly meeting. They knew I belonged to the "Waco Brotherhood" so I took the opportunity of dressing up like "Brother 56 of the Waco Brotherhood" when I introduced my model to the assembly. Here's a couple of pix that showed the fun I had and a couple of angles of the model. I am taking photos probably next week with the full scale job. Waiting for a nice sunny day with little wind! I'll post more pix at that time. Good time was had by all and the model was well received!
(Don't ask where I got the Caftan - it's a long story from many years ago!)
Had a bit of fun last night at my Flying Club monthly meeting. They knew I belonged to the "Waco Brotherhood" so I took the opportunity of dressing up like "Brother 56 of the Waco Brotherhood" when I introduced my model to the assembly. Here's a couple of pix that showed the fun I had and a couple of angles of the model. I am taking photos probably next week with the full scale job. Waiting for a nice sunny day with little wind! I'll post more pix at that time. Good time was had by all and the model was well received!
(Don't ask where I got the Caftan - it's a long story from many years ago!)
09-09-2008, 02:36 PM
#7045
Thread Starter
RE: WACO YMF
I may be the leader of the Brotherhood, but I ain't wearin' nothing that vaguely resembles that getup. Jim, that's a hoot! Plane looks great though.....By the way, who's the old Fart?
Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1
Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1
09-09-2008, 02:43 PM
#7046
Thread Starter
RE: WACO YMF
ORIGINAL: STICK MODE
Just wondering if I could ask a few questions here about the lazy ace 76 inch power by a 26 gas motor its been rebuilt and over 14 years old not my plane but got asked to do the maiden last weekend 20 feet and she was up ( big smile ) right gentle bank and wow no response more stick “he thinks” then extreme grab with the right upper aileron this was set up running a y lead to 2 servos same day I put a rudder mix in results= a@s tighting to say the least just increased the reaction nice to fly straight and level lands easy in fact im sure there’s a brail stick with it does lovely slow loops straight and true it’s the lack of reaction to input in the turns followed by extreme reaction at the end of the stick travel so what ive done is this removed the futaba servos 3001s replaced them with futaba 9202s set then to run on channel 1 and seven and set up aileron differential 100% up and 40% down can I have your thoughts on this set up this ace does not want to turn set up on the y lead So I am thinking its extreme yaw or drag caused by the lower aileron I have checked the plane center of grav is spot on wings are straight and true and level with the air frame in fact nice plane any input here would be welcome cheers
Just wondering if I could ask a few questions here about the lazy ace 76 inch power by a 26 gas motor its been rebuilt and over 14 years old not my plane but got asked to do the maiden last weekend 20 feet and she was up ( big smile ) right gentle bank and wow no response more stick “he thinks” then extreme grab with the right upper aileron this was set up running a y lead to 2 servos same day I put a rudder mix in results= a@s tighting to say the least just increased the reaction nice to fly straight and level lands easy in fact im sure there’s a brail stick with it does lovely slow loops straight and true it’s the lack of reaction to input in the turns followed by extreme reaction at the end of the stick travel so what ive done is this removed the futaba servos 3001s replaced them with futaba 9202s set then to run on channel 1 and seven and set up aileron differential 100% up and 40% down can I have your thoughts on this set up this ace does not want to turn set up on the y lead So I am thinking its extreme yaw or drag caused by the lower aileron I have checked the plane center of grav is spot on wings are straight and true and level with the air frame in fact nice plane any input here would be welcome cheers
You can try removing more of the down aileron, but I wonder how much Expo he has dialed in...? How much rudder is available? Try removing the aileron to rudder mix, and flying the model, checking if aileron input causes yaw to the opposite side (adverse). Next try rudder inputs to see if the model will yaw with rudder only. Next try a coordinated turn. I think the problem that he is having is in the radio setup. I have built a few Lazy Aces, and they were all good flying models.
Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1
09-09-2008, 03:48 PM
#7047
RE: WACO YMF
Bill,
I think I calulated 2500 rib stitches give or take a couple What method are you using? I used Elmers out of a syringe for mine and I like the results, you just have to be careful to put out the same size line for each stitch. You can actually make them pretty quick once you get the hang of it. I just made a template to mark the locations then went back with the glue. It took alot longer to add the rib tape than the stitches but it's all part of the fun.
Anthony
I think I calulated 2500 rib stitches give or take a couple
What method are you using? I used Elmers out of a syringe for mine and I like the results, you just have to be careful to put out the same size line for each stitch. You can actually make them pretty quick once you get the hang of it. I just made a template to mark the locations then went back with the glue. It took alot longer to add the rib tape than the stitches but it's all part of the fun.Anthony
09-09-2008, 05:53 PM
#7049
Thread Starter
RE: WACO YMF
ORIGINAL: WacoNut
Bill,
I think I calulated 2500 rib stitches give or take a couple What method are you using? I used Elmers out of a syringe for mine and I like the results, you just have to be careful to put out the same size line for each stitch. You can actually make them pretty quick once you get the hang of it. I just made a template to mark the locations then went back with the glue. It took alot longer to add the rib tape than the stitches but it's all part of the fun.
Anthony
Bill,
I think I calulated 2500 rib stitches give or take a couple
What method are you using? I used Elmers out of a syringe for mine and I like the results, you just have to be careful to put out the same size line for each stitch. You can actually make them pretty quick once you get the hang of it. I just made a template to mark the locations then went back with the glue. It took alot longer to add the rib tape than the stitches but it's all part of the fun.Anthony
Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1
09-09-2008, 10:21 PM
#7050
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Catharines,
ON, CANADA
Posts: 617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: WACO YMF
kvlasblom - Sorry Jim, just curious... Does your club meet in a school? Yes it does!
Stickbuilder - .....By the way, who's the old Fart? It's Brother #56 of course!!
Thanks for the kind comments. More pix to follow, but no more of "the Brother" !!
Stickbuilder - .....By the way, who's the old Fart? It's Brother #56 of course!!
Thanks for the kind comments. More pix to follow, but no more of "the Brother" !!