What is a Jet Gun?
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RE: What is a Jet Gun?
Co2 dragsters are very popular in middle and high schools now. They sell double launchers for the cars.
Here is one of the more popular competitions:
http://www.f1inschools.com/pageindex.html
Here is one of the more popular competitions:
http://www.f1inschools.com/pageindex.html
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RE: What is a Jet Gun?
ORIGINAL: Trisquire
Yes, Estes offered the 'Cold Power' series in the '70s. I wonder if that's a cheaper source of rocket propulsion than the traditional one-shot-deal solid rocket engines that are typically used. Of course, the environmentalists would probably make a fuss about CO2 these days.
Tom
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About 1976 I bought my son a model rocket boost glider similar to that that had a nicely machined aluminum tube for a motor that was charged from a can. Very awkward. The wife and I were always concerned that some of the sloppier launches could let some liquid propellant get splashed into his (or my) eyes. I might still have the tube around someplace in a box.
About 1976 I bought my son a model rocket boost glider similar to that that had a nicely machined aluminum tube for a motor that was charged from a can. Very awkward. The wife and I were always concerned that some of the sloppier launches could let some liquid propellant get splashed into his (or my) eyes. I might still have the tube around someplace in a box.
Tom
This allowed more propellant to be used as one would fill it with the liquid and as it expanded turned to gas. Had the bladder been charged with gas it would have behaved more like a pop gun expending its limited fuel almost all at once.
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At that time period I would bet good money that the propellant was the same freon that was used in automobile air conditioning systems of the day. This is the same stuff that was used for frosting glasses and beer mugs. It was sold in cans of one liquid pound.
This allowed more propellant to be used as one would fill it with the liquid and as it expanded turned to gas. Had the bladder been charged with gas it would have behaved more like a pop gun expending its limited fuel almost all at once.
Robert
At that time period I would bet good money that the propellant was the same freon that was used in automobile air conditioning systems of the day. This is the same stuff that was used for frosting glasses and beer mugs. It was sold in cans of one liquid pound.
This allowed more propellant to be used as one would fill it with the liquid and as it expanded turned to gas. Had the bladder been charged with gas it would have behaved more like a pop gun expending its limited fuel almost all at once.
Robert
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I believe the Estes did in fact use the R-12 refrigerant. Back then, it was a bit over $1.00/can. Of course, the 1 pound cans actually held 15 ounces, and the '30 pounders' we used in the garages I worked at only held 28 pounds. A 1 lb can could give a fair number of flights, depending on how well you handled the filling.
I'm surprised the Greenies haven't been lobying to shut off Volcanos. Just Mt Pinatuba is estimated to have put out more CFCs than everything man had made from the 1930s to the day of the eruption. And that was only one volcano.
I'm surprised the Greenies haven't been lobying to shut off Volcanos. Just Mt Pinatuba is estimated to have put out more CFCs than everything man had made from the 1930s to the day of the eruption. And that was only one volcano.
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Stanzel made a rocket plane with a bladder that used compressed gas. My brother got one for Christmas around 1963.
I bought one NIB on feeBay a while back - complete with a full can of gas. I don't think the can is marked as to what it contains, but I am under the impression that it is R-12 Freon. I remember spraying some on an oleander leaf (I was about 8 at the time living in Arizona), and I was amazed when the leaf turned a light yellow color and had frost on it!
I bought one NIB on feeBay a while back - complete with a full can of gas. I don't think the can is marked as to what it contains, but I am under the impression that it is R-12 Freon. I remember spraying some on an oleander leaf (I was about 8 at the time living in Arizona), and I was amazed when the leaf turned a light yellow color and had frost on it!
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If you expose Freon to a flame, you produce phosgene gas, as used for poison gas warfare before the Geneva convention banned it. Please don't try to light your Freon powered vehicle.
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Stanzel made a rocket plane with a bladder that used compressed gas. My brother got one for Christmas around 1963.
I bought one NIB on feeBay a while back - complete with a full can of gas. I don't think the can is marked as to what it contains, but I am under the impression that it is R-12 Freon. I remember spraying some on an oleander leaf (I was about 8 at the time living in Arizona), and I was amazed when the leaf turned a light yellow color and had frost on it!
Stanzel made a rocket plane with a bladder that used compressed gas. My brother got one for Christmas around 1963.
I bought one NIB on feeBay a while back - complete with a full can of gas. I don't think the can is marked as to what it contains, but I am under the impression that it is R-12 Freon. I remember spraying some on an oleander leaf (I was about 8 at the time living in Arizona), and I was amazed when the leaf turned a light yellow color and had frost on it!
Tom
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I had to go into the shop and look. But, yes, I still have my old
jet gun. It definately shows signs of lots of use.
When I was quite young, my older brother helped me build the
Monogram Hotshot. It went fast, but not nearly as fast as the
scratch-built cars my brother and his friends built. They used
ball bearing wheels and such. We also built boats and aircraft
to use the little CO2 bottles. The boats weren't as successful as
the cars. They had a tendancy to get stuck in the middle of the
pond or turn into submarines. The aircraft????? Well, let's just
say, I didn't understand about proper balancing.
Also, the local middle school still uses these cars in their technology
class. The kids build cars to the teachers specs then race them
in the hallway. The winner gets to race the teacher in front of
the whole school and gets his/her name put on a plaque that's
displayed in the technology wing.
Mr_Ed
jet gun. It definately shows signs of lots of use.
When I was quite young, my older brother helped me build the
Monogram Hotshot. It went fast, but not nearly as fast as the
scratch-built cars my brother and his friends built. They used
ball bearing wheels and such. We also built boats and aircraft
to use the little CO2 bottles. The boats weren't as successful as
the cars. They had a tendancy to get stuck in the middle of the
pond or turn into submarines. The aircraft????? Well, let's just
say, I didn't understand about proper balancing.
Also, the local middle school still uses these cars in their technology
class. The kids build cars to the teachers specs then race them
in the hallway. The winner gets to race the teacher in front of
the whole school and gets his/her name put on a plaque that's
displayed in the technology wing.
Mr_Ed
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RE: What is a Jet Gun?
Whizzing! I ran across an article in the Feb 1947 issue of Popular Science and there they were! Completely relevent to this thread and shows a picture of a jet gun posed for action. I hope you enjoy the article!
http://books.google.com/books?id=uyUDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA65&lr=&rview=1&pg=PA10 2#v=onepage&q=&f=false!
Robert
http://books.google.com/books?id=uyUDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA65&lr=&rview=1&pg=PA10 2#v=onepage&q=&f=false!
Robert
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Loved that old mag. I was just about 3 when it came out. I remember the jet gun was all right for the Monogram race car, but but very awkward for planes.
Amazing the attention paid to modelbuilding back then, with ads for the Thor B .29 ignition engine, (IIR, infamous as a slag engine) Champion V series spark Plugs for model ignition engines, and even an ad for Ambroid Cement, showing the old probably lead tube with a screw eye in the spout. I either opened sucsessfully, stripped out without opening, or actually twisted the top of the tube off trying to open many of these for the first time.
The pictures of the early Navy Jets, especially the North American XFJ-1, with what looked like straight wings, while the rest of the Fury family had sweepback and more closely resembled the F-86 Sabre family. And the picture of the Ryan FR-1 Fireball flying with the Jet only, the propellor in full feather.
The article on carving the French Flitlock was good.
And it had what was he first COLOR picture I've ever seen for the XF5U-1 showing the plane in flight with a yellow top surface, what appeared to be a black underside, and apparently natural Aluminum for the fins. Excellent color doc for a rubber powered model that's on my FF to-build list. An amazing magazine back the, much more informative than most of today's equivakents, Much broader coverage.
Do you think that new-fangled color television will ever catch on?
To quote a favorite Bob Hope Song:
Thank's for the memories!
Amazing the attention paid to modelbuilding back then, with ads for the Thor B .29 ignition engine, (IIR, infamous as a slag engine) Champion V series spark Plugs for model ignition engines, and even an ad for Ambroid Cement, showing the old probably lead tube with a screw eye in the spout. I either opened sucsessfully, stripped out without opening, or actually twisted the top of the tube off trying to open many of these for the first time.
The pictures of the early Navy Jets, especially the North American XFJ-1, with what looked like straight wings, while the rest of the Fury family had sweepback and more closely resembled the F-86 Sabre family. And the picture of the Ryan FR-1 Fireball flying with the Jet only, the propellor in full feather.
The article on carving the French Flitlock was good.
And it had what was he first COLOR picture I've ever seen for the XF5U-1 showing the plane in flight with a yellow top surface, what appeared to be a black underside, and apparently natural Aluminum for the fins. Excellent color doc for a rubber powered model that's on my FF to-build list. An amazing magazine back the, much more informative than most of today's equivakents, Much broader coverage.
Do you think that new-fangled color television will ever catch on?
To quote a favorite Bob Hope Song:
Thank's for the memories!
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I remember seeing one in our LHS shop when I was a kid, but that was just something for the 'rich' people.... it must have cost at least 95 cents or more!!
We used to hold a nail up against the CO2 cartridge and whack it with a hammer. 9 out of 10 times, we missed
Bob
We used to hold a nail up against the CO2 cartridge and whack it with a hammer. 9 out of 10 times, we missed
Bob
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ORIGINAL: N1EDM
I remember seeing one in our LHS shop when I was a kid, but that was just something for the rich people....
We used to hold a nail up against the CO2 cartridge and whack it with a hammer. 9 out of 10 times, we missed
Bob
I remember seeing one in our LHS shop when I was a kid, but that was just something for the rich people....
We used to hold a nail up against the CO2 cartridge and whack it with a hammer. 9 out of 10 times, we missed
Bob
I ran across some low res plans to share.
Robert