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This site has some specs on the HS-55 Not much torque that is for sure. .16 in/oz. I'll bet the Helimax ones are even less.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/servos.htm

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Im guessing the reason most people are "stripping" their servos out are because they are trying to move the servos manually. this is the easiest way to ruin a mico servo. they are not meant to be moved by hand. I have to agree with wildchild. the only "problems" i have had have been self inflicted. the heli itself has been great. no defects from the factory, and i purchased mine the day after my LHS started stocking them. well take it easy guys.

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UKIE, I believe you are mistaken about the HS-55 specs. These are the specs. according to Tower Hobbies.

at 4.8V
SPECS: Speed: 0.17 Sec at 60 degrees
Output Torque: 15.27 oz-in (1.1 kg-cm)
Weight: 0.27oz (7.8 g)
Length: 0.89" (22.8mm)
Width: 0.45" (11.6mm)
Height: 0.94" (24mm)

Bob

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In defense to UKIE, I think the only thing he did was to supply a link that gave the specs. UKIE did not give any specs, he only supplied a link to where you can look for yourself. This is what I did, I followed the link and read it. Besides, in my humble opinion, I am not into correcting people here on the forum, I think it is distasteful.

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Not to argue, but if you read his post he did. I'm not really trying to point out a mistake as much as make sure people get the correct specs. I personally don't even like Hitec products, but to each his own, and that's just my opinion. No offense was meant, and if it did, Sorry.

Bob

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Sorry for the confusion. this is from Hitecs site.

HS-55 (style) FEATHER, (torque) 15oz/18oz, (transit time) .17/.14 SEC, (gears) NYLON, (size) 0.9'x0.5"x0.9" 0.28 All specs at 4.8V.

Finally today is the day when I get my AXE. Should be there when I get home this afternoon.

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Your going to like that alot, and good luck with it. I'm waiting on parts to get here (blades and grips). I ordered them last Tuesday. Don't you just love Tower, Ha Ha. Well maybe today will be the day.

Bob

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Tower is OK but sometimes the shipping is sloooow. I ordered this the Friday before New Years. Probably not the best time to have ordered it but if I had waitied they would have been out of stock like they are now. Then came the Tuesday after where nothing moved because of the holiday for Pres. Ford...

Oh well.. a few more hrs and I am home..

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Glad to hear that your getting you axe today Ukie. Good luck and keep us posted.

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Order that battery/charger/power supply we talked about in my mods thread asap. The stocker is lame to say the least:)
Anyway 4 more hrs untill i can fly in our wide open warehouse at work...yeay :)

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ALRIGHT, my blades and grips got here.Got them on, checked the tracking, and all is well. I think I'm going to take it to work tonight, where I will have plenty of room (at 21 bucks a pop it could get expensive here in the house). Just as soone as I get where I can control this thing well, I do plan on the battery upgrade.

Bob

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About to fly mine at work also after a blade replacement, LMK how it goes :)
I hope these damn prices go down soon.

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Just a heads up on the AXE, i noticed under close inspection that my servos twitch under no controller movement. This is in the house, not sure if it has something to do with that. Also my main motor decided it was done so that quit. Contacted Tower and ill see what they have to say.

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Couple things. Being too close with the transmitter will cause the servos to twitch also low battery will cause them to twitch with the transmitter on or off but the receiver on.

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Thanks UKIE, probbably what it was, i was close trying to adjust the arms to the correct length and they kept twitching[:@]

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I just got my axe cp today. I'm rather happy with it. I'm also glad there are many posts here about our bird in common. Keep it rolling people!

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Well I have put 6 battery charges though my new AXE and everything is going pretty good. I can actually do a pirourette on the ground using the 4 styro balls as pivots. But it is difficult to keep it in a tight circle as it wants to "crab" across the floor. As soon as it moves out of my training box I stop and put it back and try again. it has lifted a few times only about and inch and only for a second.

Remember now I know nothing about these helis as this is my first attempt at R/C flight so bare with me please.

I don't get the tail rotor. I understand that is comes on after the main rotor reaches a certain speed, but why does the tail motor come on instantly if I move the left stick to the right? But if I move it to the left it does nothing?

Thanks
More questions coming when I can figure out how to ask them without looking like a numbnut....

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This is only for explaination so don't actually try this.

If you were to hold on to your heli by the main blades and swash plate, then added power the helicopter would rotate to the left. Thats the torque from the motor acting on the main blade. The tail rotor is pushing the nose to the right. So during hovering or flight, the heli is torquing to the left and the tail is holding to the right and they balance out and nothing moves. THat's the job of the 3in1 board, to balance the force to the right with torque. If you want the nose to go left, the tail motor slows down or stops to let it swing left. If you want it to go to the right, the Electronic Speed Control in the 3in1 adds power and the tail motor spins up forcing the nose to the right.

Now, on the ground without lifting off, the tail motor will stop or increase according to where you push the left stick (left or right).

Adding more collective (power) will also increase the tail motor because it is powered according to a percentage of main motor power, which is why the tail spins up only after you start to add power.

Hope this helps explain it for ya.

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Just wanted to add when practicing on the ground, try to move the nose right, then move it back to straight, then move it left, then straight. You'll find its a little more difficult to move the nose left because its based on how light the heli is. Not light enough and it won't move. Too light and it could lift off.

Once you get aquainted with the left transmitter stick, which is what you're doing now, then you can work on the right stick.

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UKIE, Numbnut? Nah. When yoy get brave and crash it up good, that's when you'll feel like that. I got brave the other day and had mine about 5 feet off the ground in a hover. Then along came a gust of wind, and being new to this heli thing, I lost it. Oh well, now I'm waiting on parts again (blades, blade grips, servo, tail boom, tail motor mount, tail mount). As you can see, I fell like the Numbnut right now. Have fun, and stay close to the ground for now (I wish I had).

Bob

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Thanks for the tip Bob.
I will be close to the ground for quite some time. This is super fun and is teaching me some serious discipline.

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Thanks for the explanation. It helps out alot. Things are slowly starting to click as to how certain inputs effect the performance of the AXE. I know one thing, the input is VERY sensitive. I did have in up a couple more times this afternoon and what a feeling, even if it is only for a quick moment. Can't wait to be able to sustain a hover.

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I know that there are quite a few beginners (including myself) that are new to the heli world starting off with the Axe CP. Just a little reminder that I have heard others on here mention. Don't let people distract you while you are learning or let them talk you into doing something that is outside your ability. I can't remember who posted it, but a fellow newb was hovering and his friend kept telling him, "come on, go higher". Against his better judgement he did it and ended up dorking it up a bit. I think he went into a bush. My mom was out in my garage watching me practice hovering. About two minutes into it she goes, "Is that all it does? Why aren't you flying it higher?" Just to let you know, there an area about 10 by 10 by 10 that is cleared out for me to practice. Not a ton of room for error!! I tried to explain why, but just couldn't comprehend that it isn't as easy as it looks. Long story short, don't let others make you feel you have to do something when you aren't ready. Eventually, you will feel atleast semi-comfortable trying new things. Happy flying!

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Hi Skycarven
that was me Heli Bat that said in a post earlier that a friend was egging me on to go higher. People that are new to "see this" would naturally respond by "is that all it can do". It is just a natural lack of understanding of Heli's.
Let me tell you - that machine is very complicated and is actually doing alot of mechanical things just to keep it in the air. I told my freind 'not to look at the Heli" but look at my fingers and see how many tiny adjustments that I am having to make just to make it hover. Then I think it started to sink in. No! Heli's do not fly themselves.

Heli Bat


By the Way - done a crash and burn yesterday - got too anxious - got it too high - nose in - lost orientation -
Broke tail piece and landing gear. Not too bad.

However, I went to the local flying field and if this is any consolation, I saw a young guy that was flying the heck out of a 60 or 90 size nitro. He was way beyond my capabilites. Then without any rhyme or reason, the copter just broke out into some strange gyrations and peroletting. It slid into the ground backward from a height of about 20 feet. It like broke the entire rotor mechanics. Nothing left of the mechanics - probably he is going to have to completely rebuild it. Crashes happen to all of us. And I guess this is a lesson that --Hey, I know how to hover now ! My days of crashing are over - Nope !!! Just go home and repair and fly again. Don't give up !!!! ;)

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Here's my take on the cp. Got realflight g-3.5 for Christmas. A longtime fixed wing flyer. Got to messing with the helicopters on the sim and they are a challenge. Well got so I could fly them pretty good. Wondered if the "real models" flew anything like the sim. The Axe cp is probably the hardest to fly on the sim. Being affordable and that the lLHS had one, I thought, what the heck. I waste money all the time. Got the cp acouple of days ago. Here's a list of my comments:

1. It is a cute little thing in a nice box.
2. Assembly was easy.
3. I'm crazy so it was off the ground alittle on first try.
4. Hovering pretty good on the 3rd battery.
5. Stock battery is miserable. 2-3 minites flight per charge.
6. Could hover in one place and land in the spot I wanted by 5th battery. Take- off training wheels hoping to get alittle better performance.
7. Some figure 8's by the 8th battery.
8. On 10th flight alittle side drift on landing and guest what, flipped on side and there went $20.00 in parts. Really didn't perform much better without the training wheels.
9. Flies almost exactly like the Realflight 3.5. Doesn't grind itself into ground like on sim, which is good.
10. Think I'll try some lipo's because flight time on these batteries is too short.
11. Did I say it is a cute little thing. Neat seeing it hovering up there at 10 feet.

Don