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Gandalf_Sr 06-21-2007 08:07 AM

RE: axe cp thread
 
I'm in Ann Arbor.

Be careful Joe, over confidence will bite you in the @$$. I'm a totally hooked noob too and I am want to spend a lot of time on the simulator cos I've been too many times in the fly, crash, order parts, wait for parts to arrive, repair heli, balance heli, fly, crash, repeat cycle.

Ted

lablover 06-21-2007 08:12 AM

RE: axe cp thread
 
woooohooooo


BTW..I'm a crusty old bastage :) nahh only 44 Have you gotton off the ground yet? My biggest thing is I feel the thing needs trimmed out and thats hurting my hovering skills..or lack of.

Gandalf_Sr 06-21-2007 08:19 AM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Sorry, I trump you on the age front, I'm forty-something (just).

You're right that trim is an essential prerequisite but so is having your brain programmed to fly the thing. I just flew the Trex on FMS and was doing OK until I became disoriented, if that had been the real deal, it would have cost me dearly. Hence my desire to get on the FMS SIM with the actual controller.

Check out the Allan Szabo link half way down this page http://www.helihobby.com/html/t_rex_600_heli.html One day I wanna fly like that!!!!!!!!! Just try some of the manouvers he makes on FMS, the heli will do it but it aint easy!

PilotLight 06-21-2007 08:24 AM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Hey Gandalf,

Let us know if your connector works for the sim. If it doesn't, you can get a "adapter/mixer" here:

http://www.milehighwings.com/

There's electronics to remove the ccpm mixing in the Stock Axe radio. Oops, forgot you have a FAAST radio.

lablover 06-21-2007 08:29 AM

RE: axe cp thread
 
we get old and get bored. My wife says I have too many hobbies now.

Might get the futaba but not the fast system..would this work?

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LG6992**&P=1

Plus..Could I use it with the axe as well? Looks like a mx50 is in my future. Too funny..Not even off the ground yet and I'm buying another..Foolish old dude I guess

Ya got my email..Give a shout whenever

Joe

lablover 06-21-2007 09:00 AM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Spectrum DX6

Is there different models of this? Is this the 2.4 Ghz??

I may just get the spectrum and be done with it.


Aghhhh so many choices

Gandalf_Sr 06-21-2007 09:06 AM

RE: axe cp thread
 


ORIGINAL: lablover

we get old and get bored. My wife says I have too many hobbies now.

Might get the futaba but not the fast system..would this work?

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LG6992**&P=1

Plus..Could I use it with the axe as well? Looks like a mx50 is in my future. Too funny..Not even off the ground yet and I'm buying another..Foolish old dude I guess

Ya got my email..Give a shout whenever

Joe
Yes, to the best of my knowledge this one will work, it has the ability to set PPM or PCM on a per model basis and you have to set the right one (PPM to work with the Axe I believe). Riders hobby have it for about the same price if you want instant gratification. I can tell you what my program settings are but your's might be slightly different.

Rotor13B 06-21-2007 03:14 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 


ORIGINAL: lablover

Thanks a million Ted..I'm off to go shopping

News flash...Got her about 3 inches off the ground and she was drifting left for about 10 feet. I freked so shut her down. This drifing left is gonna kick mu butt :)

Joe
Try moving the left/right trim to the right a bit, This should help with the drift. Just keep moving it one click at a time until the drift stops. If you find that your trim is almost or all the way to the right, Check the swash to be sure it's level at rest. If that is ok your going to have to dial out some tail power using the bottom pot on the 3-1. What your trying for is to keep your trim tabs close to center, They won't neccessarily be centered perfectly and that fine, You just want to be able to have the trim available when you really need it.

lablover 06-21-2007 03:30 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Got her to hover after 3 batt's..woooohoooooooooooo

I dialed down the rear motor a bit and here is the shocker..I took off the training stuff. Made it 10 times more easy to control. Now granted I can hover.....but all over the place :)

Anyway, I'm gettin the hang of it..tik tok...battery charge time

Joe

Johnny_Zero 06-21-2007 03:33 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
PPM and PCM is the modulation of your TX and RX. You just need to setup your TX properly to your RX weather it is PPM or PCM.

Johnny_Zero 06-21-2007 03:38 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Just to let you know, I agree that without the training gear it will be easier to hover and fly around. But also you should be aware that the training gear will save you much damage. When you do an emergency set down the gear will save blades, blade holders, and skids, etc. I have experienced this first hand. LOL

acadwheel 06-21-2007 03:52 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
OK I'm going to ask this again! I understand how to setup the trims and fix the linkages to get the trims centered.
The problem is my left stick bottom trim is all the way right and I still need more. There is no linkage to correct this and the pod setting has nothing to
do with it.

So how can I get the trim centered if there is no adjustment?

Heliko 06-21-2007 04:01 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Hey Lablover I'm using a 7CHP with my Axe I got off ebay for $120 shipped. It works great with the Axe. All that was required was an Rx crystal that matched the Tx. Granted it's not spectrum modulation, but since I don't fly in a crowded field it's not a problem. I will make one suggestion if you can get a radio with a 5 point curves for pitch and throttle. It makes fine tuning a little nicer.

Heliko 06-21-2007 04:09 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Acadwheel I'm assuming you are talking about the tail rotor. Try turning up TR trim (CCW). It should add power to the tail rotor and should allow you to bring the trim back to center.

Rotor13B 06-21-2007 04:12 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 


ORIGINAL: Heliko

Acadwheel I'm assuming you are talking about the tail rotor. Try turning up TR trim (CCW). It should add power to the tail rotor and should allow you to bring the trim back to center.
Agreed.

acadwheel 06-21-2007 04:23 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Ok Thanks guys I will give this a try again, although it will make the tail more sensitive right?
I think I tried this before and could not get it to work, It just made the tail to fast to the left.

You know zippp! Woops hit the chair![&o]

s_mcflurry 06-21-2007 05:07 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
You said previously, "Can anyone tell me the fix or adjustment to center my tail trim. It is now all the way to the right and the damn tail still goes to the right." I'm assuming it's turning/yawing counter-clockwise. If this is case, then adjust the left/right bias on the board (the top adjustment). I had this problem with mine as well. I centered the yaw trim and made real minor adjustments to the board. Look at the adjustment the way you would look at the heli top-down. So, if it has a tendency to go clockwise, then turn the adjustment counter-clockwise and vice versa.

On the otherhand, if the whole chopper is sliding left then follow Heliko's suggesting of adjusting the tail rotor trim (bottom adjustment on the board).

Johnny_Zero 06-21-2007 05:08 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
I don't know if this will help, but when I was still trying to learn to hover I did all this inside my garage and was hitting something quite regulary. When I finally went outside and started to fly in the street in front of my house things changed. You are able to hover at a greater altitude and you have so much more room. The first few times of flying outside were a bit different (there is wind outside...LOL) it got easier each time though. Now that I have had "space" to learn to correct my mistakes and have gotten used to flying in some wind I am much better inside. It is fun to hover at about 15 feet. It is a way different perspective, but one we all will have to learn. Get outside and fly! I would rather fly out of doors.

lablover 06-21-2007 05:27 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
I DID IT..Again

2 batt's and I was about 2 ft off the basement floor. Pretty exciting to say the least. OWEVER..Things I learned. The screw or hex bolt that holds the rotor blades like to come loose. Makes the Heli act funny. So I was stoping and tigning that thing alot.

The bigest thing I learned is Rotor blades and basement poles do not gel well together. Last batt I was TRYING to get the heli back to me but head on...WRONG..Forget the controls are now backwards when doing that..My brain knew it but my fingers did not. Toasted the blades but that was all. Time to go get another set at the LHS..I wonder if the CF ones are more durable. Heck, I have a great woodshop in my garage..I can try to make some..hehehehehe


Joe

Johnny_Zero 06-21-2007 05:45 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
CF blades aren't more durable when hitting basement support poles. LOL

seabee890 06-21-2007 05:49 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Does anybody know where to find a "I survived the chciken dance of death" t-shirts. I think I want one.
Next question, Are we only supposed to place tape to balance blade at the C.G.?
Is it true that moving the linkages in one hole slows the reaction of the servos, or just allows the ham handed more stick movement to accomplish the same thing? I keep thinking that I don't need to do this. My dances all seem to be from impatience and thick headedness.

P.S. the trick of writing left and right on the front of my canopy works great. I used dry erase marker so I can remove it later. I am also going to stsart writing myself messages of the stupid things not to do when flying and start eating them. That way when my head is up my third point of contact I will see the notes and hopefully avoid the cost of repairs. hehe.

did a full battery hover today with only three resets. I have the 1/4" dowels with the foam balls (4" ) on the ends total size 36" of training gear. It doesn't lift very well but it takes an act of god to let the blades hit anything. yaaahhhoooo

acadwheel 06-21-2007 05:50 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
I am talking about the bias pot.
Is there 1 or 2 screws?
It looks like the is 1 screw inside another sort wheel.
Hope this is clear!

hobby_man 06-21-2007 06:18 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
Hey seabee890, practice driving a car, backwards using only the rearview mirror, I got this from tip about 20 years ago and I still swear by it.[8D]

put cones in an empty parking lot, set up a course,, I used to work out in the woods with no one around, I drove backwards all the time.:D

Try it you will like it

s_mcflurry 06-21-2007 06:21 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 

ORIGINAL: seabee890
Are we only supposed to place tape to balance blade at the C.G.?
To balance blade weights then, yes, tape only at the C.G. To equal out the C.G.'s, then tape at whichever end of the blade requires it.


ORIGINAL: acadwheel
I am talking about the bias pot.
Is there 1 or 2 screws?
It looks like the is 1 screw inside another sort wheel.
Hope this is clear!
Ah, then just adjust the screw. I don't remember if the one they included is metal or plastic...I'm thinking it's metal still...so I just unplug the battery before adjusting.


Rotor13B 06-21-2007 06:37 PM

RE: axe cp thread
 
First balance the blades. Put tracking tape or scotch tape around the far end of the blade until it balances equal on your balancer. Then take the original heavy blade and find the c.g. Mark it with a felt tip pen and then lay the light blade next to it and transfer the mark on the light blade to coincide with the first mark. Now take scotch tape and place it over the mark on the light blade until the c.g. matches the heavy blade.


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