Smokin240sx

Is it true that a traxxas e-maxx can pull a savage in a bumper to bumper tug of war

ed260z

Not a chance in Hell. I think that even 3 E-Maxx's with Brushless motors would have a hard time. Here's a pix of my 14Lbs Beast.[:-]

WizzBang

I'd be suprised if it didn't. You get allot more torque and don't have to deal with slippers or clutches with the E-max. The E-max will have better low speed control as well. The E-max is a torque monster compared to almost any nitro MT.

What's the big deal with the tug-a-wars lately? I don't think this is the best way to compare MT's.

Smokin240sx

fhm 101 said his e-maxx pulled twin maxxes, .21 maxxes,and .26 savages because the e-maxx gets power to the wheels faster

ed260z

The E-maxx might be a Torque Monster, but it does even come close to the weight of a savage. I think an E-Maxx weights about 5Lbs. Compare that to 12.5Lbs of a stock Savage. Now throw in the fact that the .25 motor has a lot of torque.

rustler 1

yes it is, it shows who has more power and the savages do, basically the savage is the best out there. however there are twin titans and 1 or 2 others.no way in hell can a emaxx take on a savage in anyway.

ed260z

You Said It Brother!!!!!!!!!!! Savage Rules[>:]

Spudnik

emaxx? what is it gonna do? fall apart, no traxxass can beat a savage, even a savage .21 think of teh rpm diff when teh motor gets inot it's better power? lose surface and teh emaxx has no chance

stevblutu15

i think gearing has alot to do with it, if you have a high geared savage, like 18,47, and a low geared emax, im not sure how that gearing goes, i think it is possible. Are we talking stock?. Brushless emaxxes have the power to out run a savage, but out tork it im not sure.

rcpants

I think to keep this Nitro vs Electric on the fair side you should be comparing the T-maxx to the E-maxx.

samtron

the savage will kick both there butts[8D]

Vintage_Duff

the brushless emaxx would kill a savvy, btw im a savvy fan but brushless rips nitro, trust me i tug-o-war my mates brushless maxx and he killed me
also both of our trucks where fairly hoped up to...

this is not an emaxx but its a brushless savvy Vs nitro savvy
http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=46577
this vid shows how much more torque brushless has over nitro

Richie-EB4

I would have to agree..........with the electric you have power instantly but with nitro you need to get it to engage the clutch and then get the power to start to pull the e-maxx.........

studysession

Actually it is just the opposite -
The nitro has instant on and electric does not. If you throw was the ESC in an electric then you have instant on. Even more so with brushless. Before the motor even starts to turn, the ESC has to figure out a lot of things before it ever starts the motor - What position is the motor in now, is it turning or not, what direction am I being requested to turn the motor and how much throttle was pulled. Where nitro never stops. Pull the trigger and it goes. Nitro the shaft with the clutch on it is always turning, so nothing has to happen to figure out these things.

So the one that has the instant on is nitro. I get direct support from manufactures, and I used to think the same thing until one of them explained this to me. That is why in electroc drag racing they do not use ESC's at all. They use a micro switch. Electric drag racing is over in 1.5 - 1.8 seconds. But the time your ESC figures out what to do - the race can be almost over.

Hope this clears that up.

infernalstone

Yea, but I have to argue this. As far as a tug-of-war goes, the amount of time we're talking about is negligible. I doubt that the amount of time it takes a servo to go full throw on a throttle is THAT much more than the lag for an ESC.

As far as weight, we're compaing roughly 8.5 pounds E-maxx to the 12.5 pound Savage. As such, the weight goes to the Savage.

My guess is in a higher traction condition, the E-Maxx would have the advantage, but in like loose dirt and gravel, I think the heavier Savage would fair better. The E-maxx doesn't have weight, but the less it's tires aren't spinning, and the slower the motors are forced to go, and the higher the torque is. (Highest torque, I'm sure you know, is at 0 RPM.)

Richie-EB4

Well i stand corrected............but Study you know we are going to have to test this out LOL

studysession

I am not saying that an EMaxx can't win the tug of war. Would also have to agree that with weight and everything - in loose gravel or dirt the Savage would have the advantage.

studysession

Funny Richie - I am willing to try it out. Personally I think my drive train will break. I need to upgrade to MIP CVD's but do not want to spend the money. Then again, if it breaks - I will have to upgrade hahah
Right now I am leaving my EMaxx with stock motors for a couple more weeks. I am waiting on another brushless ESC to use in the EMaxx. LOL

Richie-EB4

Well im game............my savage is still, apart from the adjustable arms and the roll cage (and my now striped spur) so im going to find a better one than the stock..........anyway back to the topic.

I will kick your butt LOL.........jk

xman03

The E- Maxx would definately win, weight is the only thing that goes for the Savage. Electric motors have instant torque where as all nitros have to rev up to get any kind of power. Savage would loose badly.

studysession

My EMaxx weigh's a lot. Anyone know what a stock Emaxx weight is?

studysession

Traxxas does not post the weight:
http://www.traxxas.com/products/elec...maxx_specs.htm

Figure they would or am I missing it?

Richie-EB4

As quoted above...........

As far as weight, we're compaing roughly 8.5 pounds E-maxx to the 12.5 pound Savage. As such, the weight goes to the Savage.

studysession

Yeah and someone else posted the EMaxx is 5 lbs. My EMaxx weigh's more than my TMaxx. But mine is not stock. So trying to figure out weight including batteries of a stock one to be exact.

Nitro MT

I have a Traxxas book from the I hobby show in Chicago. It specs the E maxx weight at 155.2 oz without batteries.