IBrakeForNobody

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Well, I'm debating between a three speed upgrade (I think I'm smart enough to pull apart a tranny and put in the new gears ) or a reverse module. Or, if there is a way to make a reverse mod go forward for like 4 speed forward [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]. Yeah, more than three speeds is kinda useless because of the torque and usable RPM of what the engine can produce. How much faster is the three speed than the standard two speed? I've read that you'd only need a reverse mod if you suck at driving...One reason I'm looking at a three speed upgrade is to hear it shift twice . Are there any long term effects that a three speed has on the engine from running with the extra speed? Thanks.

MTObsession

The 3-speed gives you 10% lower 1st & 10% higher 3rd. It freaking rocks!

Reverse is power robbing. Added weight, module & servo.

Get the 3, you will grin big for days!

PSG-1

Yeah 3 speed before a reverse module. I have both, well i had both. I used to have a 2 speed tranny with the reverse module and yeah it is really really convenient but it does rob power. I ended up getting a pre-assembled 3 speed so i'd have an extra partial set of gears from my old tranny, but yeah definately get the 3 speed it's a huge difference. I have a mach .26 in my savage and that thing is blazing fast with that 3 speed. I'd say the rc car just runs so much better with it. It just broadens out the gear range and sounds awesome as it's going through the gears.

Michaelthefirst

what would the 3 speed do for a .21 savage? would there be a noticable difference?

the dog

im sold on the three speed. i didnt know that it gave 1st gear 10%lower range.ive also got the 2 speed it works good but theres always room for improvement.
is it better to uprade whole new tranny or just the needed parts?

SAV46VET

I was having the same trouble trying to decide what to do. Reverse does'nt mean much to me so my dilemma became buying the gut s or the whole thing... Well my stock trans has some time on it< 4 gallons of fuel so far. Correct me if I'm wrong but the kit i believe only contains the needed internals to give it the lower first and higher third. I felt it was a better decision to go with the entire trans. About 35 minutes total time from start to finish.

It's pretty cool so far....

Good luck.

tmodlin

Do the three speeds require a lot of tinkering and adjusting with the shift points? I always told myself that I wouldnt buy one because I thought it would be a pain but after all of this talk about them I night have to give it a shot.

the dog

just ordered 3 speed kit. i also bought 44tooth spur gear. i hope it is right gear.

DaveG55

I've been thinking about doing the 3 speed upgrad too. It will go in my Savage ss 25. that I've put a Mach.26 in. I've heard good things and may give it a try.
Oh, and there's another reason to have reverse. I've got it not because I'm a bad driver, I am but that's not why I've got it. I've got it because I'm too lazy to walk to the truck. It's a lot easier to flip that switch and do reverse wheelies away from whatever I'm stuck against.

Mattosan

When I built my SS I put the reverse module in the 2 speed. Not sure if I did something wrong but I never once heard that thing shift into 2nd. It is my first truck so probably I did something weird, dunno.
I recently bought a complete 3 speed and just left the reverse module out as the biggest pain in the butt with it is having to have a third servo in that tight fitting radio box.
I used to wrestle with that lid for ages and no matter how careful I was I always crimped the servo wires when I tried to shut it.
Now with it out I save weight and the lid is SOOOO much easier to get on.
The three speed does fly and I can finally hear my truck change gear, TWICE!

IBrakeForNobody

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Yeah, thats one reason why I'm looking at a three speed

popadel

3 speed! changed mine 2 weeks ago and i also now run 7 inch tures which makes the car perform the same as with the standard tyres but with less strain on the tranny.

reverse....im still thinking about it.

PS - had to adjust the second gear three times before i was happy, and that means opening the box up three times = taking the truck apart 3 times. but now im set, and have not had an issue since.

too bad i cant say the same for my titan twin which is minus a transmision MIP or 2. SHould switch to dog bones..but they are too weak.

boydie1

Both my savages have the three speed in them.
The one with the Collari .32 has reverse, which is kinda fun doing wheelies in reverse but the one with the SH.28 doesn't yet
I agree its a real pain to get the cover on the radio box, with the third servo and with a failsafe stuffed in there as well.
I bought the already assembled tranny's and haven't had to worry about adjusting the shift points.
Choice is yours as to what you get but i like both and like DaveG55 I'm also to lazy to walk if it gets stuck against something.[8D]

tmodlin

Thanks, I was wondering about the shiftpoints and if they are a pain.

I already have reverse for those lazy moments but most of the time at the BMX track there are a bunch of 10 year old boys watching and more than willing to run to a stranded Savage. In less than 5 seconds after a rollover I usually have 3 boys running to rescue my truck before it stalls. I dont even ask them to, they just do it.

bam.bam

Get and do the 3 spd first. How offen do you go in reverse anyway? Probably 5% and 95% going foward.... hmmmm.

IBrakeForNobody

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Well the reverse module is $15 at my LHS (on sale) so its tempting to go buy it and the three speed is $50 complete tranny.

Kanza

I'd go for the reverse module. The convience of not having to walk after the truck everytime it gets stuck is a godsend. And, you can save your money and pick up the three speed later.

When mounting the reverse module you could use a low profile servo to save room in the radio box. I use the Futaba S9550, but Hitec makes the less expensive HS-77

IBrakeForNobody

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The reverse won't add too much weight, like I can still wheelie and stuff, right? Thanks a bunch

amec

I like having reverse, it makes getting out of being stuck easy. I also like my 3 speed. I like the sound of it changing gear a second time. Sure there is a LITTLE more tourque down low and a LITTLE more top speed but there isnt that much. If you do the 3 speed get the assembled one. The shift points are pretty good, and its all done for you.
Can you afford both?
Unless you race who cares if the reverse zaps a little power. Boydie1 and i bash (our trucks) regularly. He has a collari which is clearly a faster engine than my 4.6, but neither of us care.
Its all good

IBrakeForNobody

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Yes, I can get both, but I don't want to have a 60 pound truck that goes 2 MPH because of all the added weight. Actually, I think my aluminum shocks add more weight than what a reverse weighs...

amec

60 pound truck? Reverse weighs 100 grams at most, dont know what that is in american speak. I think that the 3rd gear may add a bit of weight to the truck as well. Oh no!!
2mph? I dunno bout that either.
My 4.6 gets along ok, i think just a shade over 3mph anyway.
Perhaps you should sell your savage and buy a tyco mutator, i hear they are amazing....

IBrakeForNobody

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I was being sarcastic, sorry about that. 100 grams would be 3.5 ounces.

Kanza

Always one in every crowd.

The reverse module won't much weight, and you shouldn't notice any change in performance. As for the 3-speed kit, there shouldn't be any weight difference at all. HPI Made the gears thinner in order to cram the third speed into the gearbox.

irishflyer

I have the three speed LE. I bpought a reverse module along with it but haven't fitted it yet. Is it possible to have the reverse fitted along side with the 3 speed so its all in there??
Cheers

Crf250ed

Can i get a link to the 3 speed? Sorry...