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diff cups, shocks. that's about it...
if your arms are braking upgrade to rpm arms, other then that leave it stock.
with alum, its gonna be a chasing the weak point type of thing.... say you get alum arms, then the weak point will be the bulk head so you upgrade there, then the point gets moved to the shock tower, upgrade that, your gonna be chasing it till you have a 99% alum slug that is now a shelf queen that you can't run and if you do, since the alum won't snap under load it will bend its gonna cost your triple to fix...
best bet on things i would upgrade are, nova diff cups, cen diff gears, rpm arms, rpm skid, Lunsford Combo Kit Savage, engine mount, engine plate, upgrade to the ofna throttle mod, and maybe just maybe alum knuckles.
but that's just me..
if your arms are braking upgrade to rpm arms, other then that leave it stock.
with alum, its gonna be a chasing the weak point type of thing.... say you get alum arms, then the weak point will be the bulk head so you upgrade there, then the point gets moved to the shock tower, upgrade that, your gonna be chasing it till you have a 99% alum slug that is now a shelf queen that you can't run and if you do, since the alum won't snap under load it will bend its gonna cost your triple to fix...
best bet on things i would upgrade are, nova diff cups, cen diff gears, rpm arms, rpm skid, Lunsford Combo Kit Savage, engine mount, engine plate, upgrade to the ofna throttle mod, and maybe just maybe alum knuckles.
but that's just me..
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Please give me a list, as my savage breaks too much.
Please give me a list, as my savage breaks too much.
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I have beat the hick out of my Savage and broke VERY little. Could it possibly be the driver? Most alloy parts are a waste of money and like others said will only pass the breakage to the next weakest point. All so it is HEAVY.
What are you breaking?
What are you breaking?
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Integy aluminum rear carriers are NOT a good "upgrade"! No Integy part is. I've seen many of those carriers with massive amounts of slop due to prematurely worn out hing pin seats, and knowing Integy's butter soft aluminum alloy (lower yield strength than the stock parts), they will not hold up to bashing.
Anyway, the only aluminum on my truck consists of a few custom parts, and upgraded versions of parts that were already aluminum. The plastic durability of the Savage is unmatched. Tell me exactly what you are breaking, and I will give you some recommendations.
Anyway, the only aluminum on my truck consists of a few custom parts, and upgraded versions of parts that were already aluminum. The plastic durability of the Savage is unmatched. Tell me exactly what you are breaking, and I will give you some recommendations.
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Integy aluminum rear carriers are NOT a good "upgrade"! No Integy part is. I've seen many of those carriers with massive amounts of slop due to prematurely worn out hing pin seats, and knowing Integy's butter soft aluminum alloy (lower yield strength than the stock parts), they will not hold up to bashing.
Integy aluminum rear carriers are NOT a good "upgrade"! No Integy part is. I've seen many of those carriers with massive amounts of slop due to prematurely worn out hing pin seats, and knowing Integy's butter soft aluminum alloy (lower yield strength than the stock parts), they will not hold up to bashing.
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rear turnbuckle eliminators from Integy are nice..(but nothing else from Integy!!...)
rear turnbuckle eliminators from Integy are nice..(but nothing else from Integy!!...)
Sounds like other people haven't had the same luck.
That's the only aluminum part on my trucks. At one time I had the aluminum a-arms on my son's truck. He would break the wierdest things.. (bend TVP's, crack bulkheads, etc.). Switched back to the stock arms and the breakage stopped. The factory parts allow for alot more flexing and adsorb the shock of the beatings we put on them.
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^^^+1, idk about you guys, but i've broken very little, and imo when i get this to the track i wail on it, WOT off a 10ft up 15-20 ft forward jump, it has a screwy lip that i mess up a lot (tho i'm getting better) and i've landed so many odd ways, on and off power, mostly off camber 1 wheel usually, bumpers, roof, engine, all are pretty beat up but no breakage just scratches, so it depends on what you're breaking, the only thing stronger/better than stock is RPM, so idk what you're breaking/ how but something soulds fishy..
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So..are you guys basically saying .....do not install any metal or alloy after market products on your vehicles...as they are heavy, expensive to replace and bends...
I might just try those integy rear hubs though......
Please correct me if I'm wrong.....
I'm not breaking arms,
just my HEAD SINK, suspension caps, and fuel tank actually, ruins my day every time.
I might just try those integy rear hubs though......
Please correct me if I'm wrong.....
I'm not breaking arms,
just my HEAD SINK, suspension caps, and fuel tank actually, ruins my day every time.
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Most of what I have that is alloy is not for more strength but for handling. Like the HPI suspension conversion and HPI big bore shocks. The one thing I do recommend alloy is a good set of clutch shoes. My HPI suspension conversion comes with the rear hubs like Integy but much better alloy. What truck are you running and you are not running the engine guard like comes with the X?
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fuel tank is really nothing you can do about that unless you upgrade to a side tank mount of a smaller tank....
the shock caps, could be a few things, oil being one of them.....
and run the X roll cage or look into a older style savage roll bar that's about it, you really can't protect the head of the motor, there are a few trick you could do...
put zip ties on the first fin, or line them with fuel tubing and that will help your head from being scratched, really that's what the body of these cars is for is to keep that from getting damaged and keeping the elements out...
my earlier post, those were things i would do, but i have yet to brake anything on the savage but a fuel tank and cen shocks i put on the savage....
the shock caps, could be a few things, oil being one of them.....
and run the X roll cage or look into a older style savage roll bar that's about it, you really can't protect the head of the motor, there are a few trick you could do...
put zip ties on the first fin, or line them with fuel tubing and that will help your head from being scratched, really that's what the body of these cars is for is to keep that from getting damaged and keeping the elements out...
my earlier post, those were things i would do, but i have yet to brake anything on the savage but a fuel tank and cen shocks i put on the savage....
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i put a hole in my tank once cuz a rock hit it, but it was odd cuz it was real close to the engine, tho i was upside down at the time, good thing i was coming in for a refill... bad thing, no more savvy today...
for the head the X roll bar and spacer, as well as run your body a bit higher, i know i like mine real low and i got a bent fin cuz of that...
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for the head the X roll bar and spacer, as well as run your body a bit higher, i know i like mine real low and i got a bent fin cuz of that...
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Get an Ofna 125cc tank and tank guard. The smaller tank mounts out of the reach of the upper shock bolts (Cause of 90% of tank failures in my experience), and the guard protects it from damage from rocks and other debris.
Heat sinks... How are you breaking them if you are running a Nylon cage?
Shock caps blow off when the oil is too viscous, or the shocks are overfilled with oil. Don't use anything over 30wt oil, and fill the shocks to about 80% of their capacity. They are not designed to be run oil free.
Heat sinks... How are you breaking them if you are running a Nylon cage?
Shock caps blow off when the oil is too viscous, or the shocks are overfilled with oil. Don't use anything over 30wt oil, and fill the shocks to about 80% of their capacity. They are not designed to be run oil free.
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My Savage started life as a 4.6SS and the older roll bar does nothing for saving the head. Matter of fact the HPI LCG chassis I run came with the old style roll bar and I modified the X roll bar and engine guard to fit. works real well. Coarse with my HPI LCG chassis my engine, fuel tank and transmission sits 7mm lower then on an X.
They do make a fuel tank guard that helps protect the fuel tank.
They do make a fuel tank guard that helps protect the fuel tank.
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lol....That is why I built them...just wanted to see, how the other fellas would solve that problem...
I'm already running CEN diff, Integy rear hubs, HPI bigbores, hardened outdrives, drive cups, hardened dogbones, hardened CB, Hardened spur.....
So what you guys think of these....? Non alloy, Non metal rollcage....
I'm already running CEN diff, Integy rear hubs, HPI bigbores, hardened outdrives, drive cups, hardened dogbones, hardened CB, Hardened spur.....
So what you guys think of these....? Non alloy, Non metal rollcage....
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I busted a fuel tank or two in all my Savage bashing months. I slammed it sideways into a curb, that goot the tank
I also botch a jump when I half-@$$3d a jump abort (I was alerady half-way up teh ramp when I realized I needed to abort teh jump),. The Savage puttered up the edge of teh ramp from sheer momentum and whet at teh top, the nose poited straigt in the air and it fell staight on its @$$. The force pushed the rear bumper and collapsed it all teh way to teh reay shock tower, the rear shock tower was pressed into the tank, and it was the shock mount screw that pierced the tank
Lots of fun...good times
I also botch a jump when I half-@$$3d a jump abort (I was alerady half-way up teh ramp when I realized I needed to abort teh jump),. The Savage puttered up the edge of teh ramp from sheer momentum and whet at teh top, the nose poited straigt in the air and it fell staight on its @$$. The force pushed the rear bumper and collapsed it all teh way to teh reay shock tower, the rear shock tower was pressed into the tank, and it was the shock mount screw that pierced the tank
Lots of fun...good times
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I busted a fuel tank or two in all my Savage bashing months. I slammed it sideways into a curb, that goot the tank
I also botch a jump when I half-@$$3d a jump abort (I was alerady half-way up teh ramp when I realized I needed to abort teh jump),. The Savage puttered up the edge of teh ramp from sheer momentum and whet at teh top, the nose poited straigt in the air and it fell staight on its @$$. The force pushed the rear bumper and collapsed it all teh way to teh reay shock tower, the rear shock tower was pressed into the tank, and it was the shock mount screw that pierced the tank
Lots of fun...good times
I busted a fuel tank or two in all my Savage bashing months. I slammed it sideways into a curb, that goot the tank
I also botch a jump when I half-@$$3d a jump abort (I was alerady half-way up teh ramp when I realized I needed to abort teh jump),. The Savage puttered up the edge of teh ramp from sheer momentum and whet at teh top, the nose poited straigt in the air and it fell staight on its @$$. The force pushed the rear bumper and collapsed it all teh way to teh reay shock tower, the rear shock tower was pressed into the tank, and it was the shock mount screw that pierced the tank
Lots of fun...good times