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I had posted this originaly in the stadium truck forum but they told me to try here so here it goes. Until now ive only driven on road nitro cars and i wanted to get a off road to do all the stuff i cant with on-roads so i want some help to know which is the best for what i want here is the list of things it has to be good at:
1.IT HAS TO BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND JUMPS BECAUSE THATS MORE LESS WHAT I WANT MOST
2.Has to be durable
3.Has to be drivable moreless any where
That moreles it i was thinking about a genisis because i like cen and there customer service is great but its a rtr i rather have a kit also ive heard it has allot of defects in it plz any repley would help

P.S. plz dont tell me to buy a super $expensive$ car because im not rich

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well if you want a kit the Savage SS 4.6 is probably perfect for you.

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yea the savage ss 4.6 or the team losi lst are right now the two im choosing between

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SS 4.6

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Savage 4.6 :D

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thnx guys but it would help if you would give some reasons plz

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thats it the savage is getting way ahead of team losi mostly because they sell it at my lhs and its allot cheaper also its looking more durable

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the only thing weak on the lst is the a arms and turnbukles, on the savage its the tvps,roll bar and shocks. i want an lst SO bad, if i ahd that choice id take the lst, but its yours not mine.

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thnx for posting first good post i get about the lst then again i am in the hpi forum but still

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you mean A-Arms, Turnbuckles, diff cases, tranny, and the fact that there is no roll bar at all.

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Well, everything listed in the first post of this thread describes the Savage.
I have enver owned anything but a Savage. So I don't actually ahve a hands on experience with the other available trucks.

But I can tell you that the Savage is what you are looking for and that you won't be disappointed with it.

I bought the Savage 25 back in December of 04, then got the SS 4.6 a few months later.
And I am very pleased with these trucks. They are 'very' durable. I beat and thrash my S25 and it keeps asking for more.

You can't go wrong with a Savage. Well, unless you want to race.

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the LST is an awesome truck, but your going to spend some coin (on top of the already hefty $600 price tag) on the things to make it tough RPM arms TI turnbuckles, aluminum diff cups, and a good roll bar, but there is no other truck that handles or turns like it.

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I bought a Savage SS 4.6, my brother bought an LST, and my nephew bought a Revo. These are all our first MT's, so we're all equal newbies. My take on the three:

Savage - Incredibly durable!! I've wrecked this thing in ways that would make your head spin, and the only problem was, well... NONE!! I did the Ofna fuel tank mod, replaced the stock clutch shoes, and had two melted spurs (none since replacing the shoes). I think I have about $650 in it. This is probably low, because I was given 1 servo and a radio system.

LST - After the original $600 price tag and about $350 in upgrades, my Savage smokes it!! I will say, though, that the truck looks awesome, and now, after the upgrades, is pretty "bashable".

Revo - This truck is in a different class (1/10, smaller engine, more of a racer), but the handling is super. On straight-aways, it has no chance against the Savage or the LST, but in the corners... Also, aside from an upgraded cooling head and replacing o-ring on gas tank lid (messed up in a crash landing ON THE GAS TANK!!), nothing has broken on this truck, and this kid drives like a maniac! I think this one has about $750 in it, after upgrading the radio.

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I used to race on-road cars and wanted an off road vehicle for the same reasons as you and I got the Savage 4.6SS kit. I decided on the Savage for these reasons:
1. I raced HPI on-road cars with great results
2. The Savage is extremely tough and is the most scale looking with the TVP chassis
3. Savage parts are readily available and easy to find

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if you want air, go with the savage because it is very durable for jumps after jumps

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yea im pretty shur im gonna get a savage ss 4.6 kit its cheaper than the lst and looks allot better for what i want it also has plenty of upgrades and its a kit also my local hobby shop sells it. Now all i have to do is either beg for money to buy it , wait til december(my bithday), or win the lotto:D. Yea but either way im gona end up gettin the savage unles out of no where before i get the savage some new truck comes out thats so spectacularly good that it makes me want to buy it but that probably wont happen.

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For jumps the savage is the best. You would need to jump it of a 3 story house to get it to bottom out even with stock springs.

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ive barley heard of anyone break trannys or diff cases. have you noticed a lot of trucks dont come with rollbars? the one on the savage barley does anything either.

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I have never had a problem with any of these. If you want to know about the roll bar take it off bash it and you well see what it does.

s-maxx-basher how many Savages have you own?

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The roll bar does alot i cant count how many times its saved various parts on my savage

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^^^ Same here. My roll bar has taken a beating. I'm sure it's saved me a lot of damage. I've had to use a hammer a few times to bend it back straight.

LST looks to be an awesome truck. With the top-notch radio gear it comes with, you would spend the same on an SS4.6 with a JR-XS3. I've heard the losi makes a better racer, but i can't see it being MORE durable than the Savvy. I've pounded my savvy hard, and i've only scratched the cooling head, and bent my roll bar. It is as tough as its rep, or tougher.

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Great this is exactualy what i wanted people argueing about the lst and savage's problems keep it up yal:D

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i love my savage man!

it is a great truck
i bash it ever day man and nothing break
very durable

just buy your own savage ;-)

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nah! i thought you were gona give me yours;-) lol j/k