does anyone have any experience with the GL Hobbies Ultimate? It's big and the price is right, but how does it build and fly? What size engine are you using?

I built one this spring, and built it the way he said. It lasted 9 flights when the right wings broke in a low rate snap. This a a short kit and the plan for the formers are all to small. You must cut out with paper first to check the size. There are a lot of good kits or ARF's that fly well. Spend the the money and get something that works.
Dennis

SORRY I MUST SAY I KNOW THE PERSON THAT KITS THE PLANES AND HE HAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF THE PLANES THAT HAVE BEEN FLYING FOR YEARS THAT HAVE NOT HAD A PROBLEM HE DID NOT BUILD THE WING THAT FAILED YOU DID I DONT SEE HOW FOAM AND THE TUBE HE SOLD YOU WOULD SNAP WHEN THE WING IS BUILT BE THE BUILDER THATS WERE THE PROBLEMS COME FROM NOT THE FOAM CUTTER THE BUILDER I HAVE BUILD SOME OF HIS KITS AND PUT THEM WERE MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT AND HAVE YET TO BREAK ONE AND I DO TRY TO BREAK MY PLANES

NOT INTENDING TO PO ANY BODY OFF BUT THE GUY KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING OR WOULD NOT BE IN BUSINESS FOR LONG IF HE SOLD BLOW APART PLANES AFTER ALL HE IS HALF SCALE ALSO HE CAN NOT CONTROL THE WEATHER WERE YOU BUILD AT PAPER SHRINKS[X(]


ALSO I'M NOT THE PERSON THAT OWNS GL HOBBIES I'M JUST A SATISFIED CUSTOMER

You have no idea how I build or how many years I've been doing it. You also don't know the times I talked to him on the phone. If you are happy good for you. I know how I built the plane and the advice I listened to. Take what I said with a grain of salt
Dennis

EASY FELLAS

Lets not take this to a different level.....You can say all you want good or bad about the plane, but do not make any PERSONAL remarks...

THANK YOU

I DID'NT MAKE ANY REMARKS TO PEOPLE JUST THE PLANE

AND I DID NOT SAY ANY THING ABOUT YOUR BUILDING SKILLS ? BUT I SAID THATS WERE THE PROBLEMS COME FROM YOU COULD HAVE BAD GLUE OR SOMETHING ELSE IT HAPPENS BUT I KNOW A GOOD DESIGN WHEN I SEE ONE AND I LIKE THAT DESIGN I HAVE PUT THAT TYPE OF WING IN AND THATS ALL THAT HELD UP

I DID NOT MAKE ANY REMARKS TO ANYONE I JUST NAMED A SHOP NOT ANY DIFFERENCE THAT NAMING JR FUTABA SATIO OR ANY THING ELSE


AND I DONT GO EASY



AND YOUR WELCOME




ALL I CAN SAY IS IF THE KIT BREAKS GO BY AN ARF

Hey Dennis,
Just curious, did this Ultimate use flying wires? What size sheeting were the wings and where did they break? I'm building a couple scratch Bipes and am as curious about what doesn't work as much as what does.

Thanks,

I would like to set the record straight. This plane is a great flyer when you fly it like a Cub. This is what I would like to see changed. 1. Leave the fuselage in one piece (not three) 2.All formers pre-cut 3.All metal pre--bent 4. Carbon fiber wing joiners 50% of wing l5. Increase wing cord 10%. I know that this increases cost, but I wouldn't mind paying the difference. Some kits are painful to build and others are not. Now I'm building a Aerotech 37% Edge and I'll be sorry too see it ready to fly. Dennis

I built one of the 42% Giles. It was a night mare to build. No wing tube at all. It was constructed with blade spars using 3/8 aircraft ply. Very heavy set up that is not very accurate. The fiberglass was ok. It had a ton of pin holes in it. Looked like you sprayed primer on a piece of screen wire. The foam was actually really nice. These airplanes could fly very well but I could build two Carden 40% airplanes in the amount of time it would take to build one good G+L airplane. It was a ton of work and I wasn't very pleased with the end result. An overweight airplane that took twice as long to build as any other kit out there. I flew the plane 25 times and never did get it to fly very well. Basically there are many others out there. Once you figure in how much it takes to complete the G+L you are going to spend more on it than the other options. And it will take twice as long to complete. I know the owner and we are good friends. I just think there are much better options for airplanes out there.
Jason Danhakl

Thanks guys, this is the kind of information I needed to make my decision, minus the argument. I would like an Ultimate in this size but if it requires a ton of labor I know that i wont enjoy it especially if there are structural questions.

the hangar 9 is very good but gl kits are a breese to build dont take very long at all i built the 1/4 scale 230 in a week nothing to it


i really like the kits and they will come out liter as long as you can control your glue hand good

What's your weight on the 230?

9 pounds 14 ounces g 23 gasser friend has the ace wood verson with a g23 on glow his is 10 pounds and 7 ounces fiberglass is a lot liter if you know what your doing with it and i'm 19 and know what i'm doing and saying flys like a dream thats one of the best flying planes i had it dont do none of that funky 230 stuff the ace kits did i higly recommed g and l kits ther very easy to build and quick the smaller kit build faster than a arf

oyea the plane has a 76 inch wing and is 58 inches long


i cant say what went wrong with the plane but there a very good design

and no body i know has ever had a problem but there always a way to mess up the thing