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Old 01-21-2006 | 07:33 AM
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Hi Guys

A quick question regarding #9, the 1 1/4 spin. The aresti shows the down line with dashes.

Am I correct in thinking that this means you have to see the bottom of the airplane on the way down and the roller has to start cross box flying out?

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Old 01-21-2006 | 08:14 AM
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Am I correct in thinking that this means you have to see the bottom of the airplane on the way down and the roller has to start cross box flying out?

Thanks
Alan
No.
The exit of 9 can be flown going out or coming in.

Dont comit yourself to always flying out on 9. Let the wind decide which way you want the spin to go.
If your flying L to R and you have a wind blowing out, why not spin into the wind and bring the x-box in?
If you fly it out with a wind blowing out, you may get too far away before you enter 10.

Practice it both ways and let the wind decide which way you want to go. It will make for a much better presentation.




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Thought it worth a quick correction and explaination:

1. Intermediate Figure #9 is a 1 1/4 turn spin (positive spin from upright), not a hammerhead

2. the basic Aresti figure is family 1: 1.6.3 ~ without the spin it would simply be a push to a vertical downline from upright...then pull to upright, cross-box. The push to the vertical downline is a negative-G manuever, hence the dotted lines.....

If the spin were replaced by aileron rolls, point rolls or snap rolls, then the dotted line would make sense. By applying the spin to the basic manuever it does make one scratch his head looking at the dotted line on the down-line!

Hope that clears it up a bit.......

Oh....and as the last post stated, the cross-box exit can be either in or out!

Larry Lutton
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Old 01-21-2006 | 07:22 PM
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If I were in Intermediate, I would bring the spin in alway's unless it's blowing in. The problem is most intermediate pilot's havn't quite perfected rollers and for most it's the most nerve rackin part of the sequence. If they bring the spin in the orientation on doing the roller looking at the nose is different and more difficult in my opinion. It's more comfortable for most to take it out but if you start the spin on the far side of the box the roller is going to be way out there. This years sequences seem to focus alot on positioning, which is good.

-Kelly Gerber
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Thanks for your help and comments. Next time I will try bringing it in.

Alan
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These are all good comments but another way to look at it is that if you fly the first part of the sequence up to the humpty in, then you humpty out and do the roller back in. I have been doing the opposite by starting the line out, bringing the humpty back in then rolling out. If you have a wind direction that is pushing you in you will have work to keep it out or you will have to pull a tighter humpty so you don't bust the dead line.

Allan

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