EDGE ARF
 

After looking at the various 1200 sq in ARFS- I bought a D Patrick EDGE (mine is blue and white) and stuffd my ZDZ50 NG and a big home made in cowl muffler into it .
using all full size servos and 4 aileron servos -(also elevs and rudder servo in the tail ) plus a throttle and choke servo (full size
I ended up with ---- 14.5 lbs ready to fly. no ballast or odd batt locating required.
This is the best I have seen in a light ARF --in this size. We checked out the H9 CAP- a real beauty - but same setup.properly balanced, came in at -- 17.25 lbs. a little heavy for our altitude -but the NG really cranked it around.
The reason for the 50 was to get a model which had lots of recovery thrust --allowing it to be flown slowly.
If the snow blows over - I will try the new Unlimited sequences with it this weekend.
My last model about this size was 11 lbs and 1280 squares -with a 40 - but not an ARF.
a light model with tons of overkill recovery thrust really makes flying sequences easier.
A VERY nice ARF
Anybody else tried one of these?

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I have about ten minutes at the sticks of one powered by a BME 50. Very nice flying plane. Handles the weight of a gas engine well, and appears to be built well. Thanks for the tipoff on the new sequence proposals - I'll have to check them out!

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Dick:
My buddy have a hangar9 cap 80" weight 16 lbs with the ZDZ60, side muffler 6,380rpm with menz 24x8, is a monster and in this side of airplane is one of the best that i seen flying.

I like to know when you are going to up date your internet side?.
I like to see pictures of your lasts work.

Oscar

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Hi Dick,

I've been flying a DP Edge with a BME 50 for about 2 mos. now and I have been very pleased with my choices for a first gasser. Now that I've seen that you've chosen a similar airplane and engine I am really pleased!

Mine has one servo per aileron and pull-pull rudder - had to add that 2 oz. back to the tail to balance. Mine weighted about 15.5 lbs. by the ol' digital bath scale but I haven't weighed it since going to CF gear and prop. Do you have a pic of your rudder servo install? I might move mine similarly. I going to try out a new Mejzlik 22-8 on it this weekend.

What prop(s) are you using for IMAC work? Also, any tips you could lend on set-up (throws, expo, mixes, etc.) would be greatly appreciated. I'm working towards starting in IMAC comps in my area next season.

Thanks,
Chris

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Actually mine weighs 15.4 - I mis typed it earlier!
The rudder servo is in the lower hole provided and I used a single pushrod on a 8411 JR servo.
The setups I use on all my planes is the same -
Max deflection possible for goof off flying - then pull it all back to half that and add expo to suit -
On the JR that is typically 70% on ailerons and 40% on elev and same on rudder .
NEVER reduce throws to "just enough".
learn to fly thru all maneuvers - including snaps -
there is no correct setting for these , as the combo for level flight is much different for verticals and 45 degree lines .
The reason being that gravity forces ar much different in these attitudes.
As for mix - for precision flying - first balance the model such that a cruise speed knife edge pass require little elevator correction to prevent tucking.
Then mix in what is required .
many flyers try to setup for the so called 3D stuff - then mix to get good precision flying-
It can be done but it is the hard way to do it.

RE: EDGE ARF
 

Hi Dick,
Here is my Edge on the ramp at this weekends' fly-in. I ordered the all-white version so that I could do this scheme. I'm anxious to get started in my IMAC practice with some help from an experienced competitor that I know. It seems that most IMAC'ers are in the 35 to 40% scale range. Do you see many in your area flying the 50cc size A/C? I know that skill has nothing to do with the size of your equipment (!!) but am I likely to be judged differently with the smaller airplane?

I'll start a new thread in the ARF section with a ZDZ / Christen Eagle question for you - please take a look.

Thanks,
Chris


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Here is my honest opinion on IMAC
The rules - always driven by the most keen and active competitors, have driven IMAC into the same old trap that hits all of the competition groups
That trap is in promoting as " truth", the idea that any plane size can be flown with equal chance for success.
Not true.
The reason is objective-not subjective.
The TIME it takes to fly the sequences changes with the size of the model.
Bigger models = more time --more time to correct --more time to present - etc.
This is an almost impossible edge to overcome ,unless you are very proficient - which most entry level flyers are not.
So-- even a very amateur newcomer can look good with a large model -which is less demanding to fly.
You can do well with a smaller model but you must must fly very well to place better than a less skilled presentation with a larger setup-
If you can fly and win with a smaller model -you are absolutely a better pilot.
We do have,locally, guys flying 50 size models - but this rarely goes beyond the first two classes.
The bigger models just plain ol present better .
I like the 50 size model for ease of relaxed flying and low cost of practice.
I just sold my last larger model - and will shortly start on another .-as soon as I finish 3, 40% models owned by others . --

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I haven't flown the larger models yet but I am awaiting a 40% Carden Extra kit due this spring. Sounds like if I can make good progress on the sequences with my DP Edge then the big'un will make it easier to actually compete. I had my suspicions about the judging (not to imply that it's overtly unfair) always being somewhat biased toward the larger A/C because many contests utilize other competitors from the upper classes as judges. Just human nature to be favorably inclined towards others' choice of something you already have (kind of like why I responded to your EDGE post, huh?). Well thanks for the good advice again, Dick.

Chris

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nice plane chris!!!

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Thanks a bunch, Cary!