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lazun 11-28-2004 11:28 PM

Comp-ARF Chip Hyde Scheme "Fraud"
 
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It's time to give credit where credit is due. This color scheme has been seen lately by many of us. Some coining it as their own. It has popped up on the cover of AMA on Garrett Morrison's Extra. Many manufactures are using it, and now Chip Hyde is using it. It is a beautiful scheme. After all it did win the WRAM show best finish award. So who's color scheme is it and who deserves the credit. THE MASTER BUILDER/FLYER YURI HIGUCHI.

quist 11-29-2004 12:13 AM

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I'll give the vote to Kenny Lauter. The wings aren't the only part of the paint scheme. Since Kenny was the original owner (and builder) of Chips plane I will give him the credit.

PS Does it really matter?

BasinBum 11-29-2004 12:36 AM

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It's a bit busy and the stars look really dated.

lazun 11-29-2004 09:11 AM

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Yuri's plane was in 2000. Well before Kenny Lauter!!!! The plane was seen in many events like the XFC, Joe Nall, etc. Kenny gets no vote.

famousdave 11-29-2004 11:01 AM

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Describing the scheme as "fraud" is a little harsh...

There is no copyright on paint jobs, color schemes, etc... and in order for fraud to take place, one would have to be defrauding someone (Yuri, in this case, if he had applied for copyright) or violate some law (theft of copyrighted material) ... and then selling it as their own work. In this case, CA is only stating that it was the scheme Chip Hyde was flying, they did not say Chip Hyde claimed the scheme as his own.


Since copying someone's color scheme is the ultimate compliment, and if in fact Yuri came up with the scheme, he should feel pretty good that Chip Hyde and/or Comp Arf wants to use it....


That said, I hate stars on planes and the scheme is way too busy anyway... so who really cares!

Discussing copied color schemes any further is right up there with a P.O.C. like Dan Rather copying a turd like Farenheit 911 -- its insignificant and meaningless... just like the original.

DP

lazun 11-29-2004 11:29 AM

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Your right. It was just a title to get some attention. It just came up in discussion with some friends. No big deal. I hear that Yuri is building a new aircraft for Hacker. He will be using "his" scheme on it. Hacker said to him isn't that Chip's scheme? Yuri said NO!!! And you are right about him being flattered that people love "his" scheme.


We all know where most of the more famous color schemes came from. Just wanted to get the word out on where this one came from.

quist 11-29-2004 08:58 PM

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Once again, The fuse is not the same only the wings are close. I think Kenny perfected Yuri's design into something better. Since Kenny was the original owner of chips plane that is why I am calling it a "Lauter design". Are you going to call every plane that has the lightening bolt on the side a Somenzini.

CAPtain232 11-29-2004 09:16 PM

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I too saw YURI flying with this scheme long before CHIP.

It is Yuri's trim.... there is a CHIP HYDE forum..... go ask Chip

lazun 11-29-2004 09:47 PM

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Well, when you look at a color scheme that looks similar; certain names pop into your mind. As you said, when you think of a Z on the fuse you think Qui. When you look at McConvilles scheme or Chips old scheme or Jasons scheme or Quis scheme no matter what colors or little diffrences, you still think of those names because they came up with it originally. All I was saying is that it is YURI's scheme.

Angus Balfour 11-30-2004 09:51 AM

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It's MY scheme!!!

Angus

lazun 11-30-2004 10:08 AM

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Well it's everyones scheme to enjoy now. Mine yours who cares. BUT, bottom line, YURI HIGUCHI DESIGNED IT. And no one can take that away from him!!!!!!!!

JWilliams 12-02-2004 08:05 PM

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What happened to Yuri? I saw him fly at the 2002 XFC then never heard/seen him at other events. Jeff W.

quist 12-02-2004 08:26 PM

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He is living out here in the Phoenix Area.

lazun 12-02-2004 10:20 PM

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Yuri will be around this year. His first stop is going to be San Juan Puerto Rico at the WR Aerobatics Airshow!!!! See you all there!!!

lazun 12-04-2004 07:30 AM

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Yuri will be at the:

WR Aerobatics, Puerto Rico
JR Challange, Florida
Joe Nall, South Carolina
XFC, Ohio
NATS, Indiana

Tired Old Man 12-15-2004 10:41 PM

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If it's got a lightning bolt on it the idea was pirated from Gerry Lopez and Lightning Bolt Surfboards in Hawaii. It was his trademark. The design stems from the 1970's. BTW, Lopez spent quite a bit of time in South America playing with big waves in the 70's and 80's.

Vic3D 12-16-2004 12:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: lazun

WR Aerobatics, Puerto Rico

Oh yeah baby. That's where's it's gonna happen![sm=thumbup.gif]

ramcfarland 12-18-2004 08:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: BasinBum

It's a bit busy and the stars look really dated.
Take a good look at the full scale Cessna single engine aircraft. Years past we had a new painted scheme every model year now look at the "new.." Look at all your options and do your thing-it's your thing-do what you want to do.:)

fredo 12-18-2004 09:20 PM

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C'mon guys, my scheme, his scheme what a load of bull*%&#. I can guarantee that if I design my own scheme there will be most likely another hundreds similar designs out there if not the same. So who really cares??

lazun 12-31-2004 08:15 AM

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Your right!! But, when someone else takes credit for it then I care as you would too!!!!!

mu2driver 01-02-2005 06:20 PM

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Having just delivered Chips new Composite-Arf 3.1m Super-Xtra to him a few weeks back he doesnt claim to have made up the scheme, it is just a scheme that he likes enough to have Andreas make him a Custom Paint Job of. That all nothing more..

Who really cares anyway? But really it is a very photo getic scheme and it shows nicely in the air. This scheme will never die and yes Yuri did a great job...

I happen to have the Andy Kane scheme...lol

sir-crash-alot 01-02-2005 08:52 PM

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wait andy made that scheme. The yellow and black one wow ive seen him flying it at our field all the time never knew that. i think its freakin awesome!!!

sir-crash-alot 01-02-2005 09:01 PM

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wait i just checked the website it doesnt say which one is his scheme!

mu2driver 01-02-2005 09:16 PM

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HAHAAA its ok I know it was designed by Andy.... The web site never tells you the whole story...:D all of them are cool schemes and lets not forget if you want a Custom Scheme you can submit a quote to get your own scheme of any plane....

lazun 01-02-2005 10:10 PM

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Check it out. Yuri's new project!! WOW!!!


[link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2487581/anchors_2487581/mpage_1/key_yuri/anchor/tm.htm#2487581[/link]


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