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Old 09-14-2014, 08:41 PM
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Robert I have no clue who Sr is ???? but thank you for trying to help.

Cub Man I'm a big fan of slip tubes, I did that to my 1/4 scale Spacewalker, came out great. I actually know what I'm going to do, usually help from others help to foster ideas of my own, there is always a chance to learn more.

John_M_ thank you for those kind words. I have been accused of being a master builder but the truth is I build for myself, I can't help it if my planes come out exceptional, it's just the way I do things.

Keith I can't judge your building skills, only you can do that, just don't sell your self short and there is alot of builders who would be happy to add assistance should you ask, I'm one of them. Kits by and large will have different levels of skill needed to build it right, some require advanced skills, usually meaning you have built at least a couple different air frames with success and are ready to move up. A LT-40 by Sig is a good upper wing plane to build for a first one if you want a nice trainer, it has a 70" one piece wing that can be made with a joiner, I hope I got that right. A 1/4 or 1/3 scale cub is a bit more advanced. By the way the Hanger 9 1/4 scale Super Cub is a beautifull plane with the white and blue on it and it flies nice. I was at a scale fly in recently and saw one and was impressed with that plane.

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Corsair2013, if you enjoy working with your hands and are capable of reading plans and following instructions, building a 1/5 or 1/4 scale cub would be a great first build... they are a gentle giant in the air.

Kit wise, as mentioned, the Sig 1/5 Anniversary Cub, or the Sig 1/4 Cub... regarding the ARF, My inlaw has the H9 1/4 J3 and he luv's it... I've flown it on many occasions and it flies very well... on the other hand, I have the 1/4 H9 Super Cub, just waiting for the engine and I'll be ready for the maiden... they both are decent ARF's... if you get either, and the shipping distance to you is considerable, you may benefit from paying a little extra in shipping and have the wings shipped in a separate box, as mind came badly damaged and had to have the wings replaced... when the H9 Super Cub is all assembled, I like the appearance of it better than the H9 J3... I hope the SC will fly as nice, if not better.

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Old 09-15-2014, 06:39 AM
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OK So I have two Cub kits and I am ready to put one on the work bench but I am not sure what one to build this fall winter . I have the Sig Cub 1/6 scale kit that is an older but complete and looks like a 70`s kit from what I have researched . I also have a 1/4 scale Sig Cub that I bought last year and did not start on as it was too late in the building season for me to get to it and I started on a Kadet LT40 . This kit will be number five for me and all have been Sig Kits # 1 Cloud Ranger #2 Cessna 180 Sky wagon #3 Kavalier #4 Kadet LT40 .
From what I have seen the 1/4 Scale Cub looks to be a better designed kit ? What do you guys think ?
Old 09-15-2014, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly North
OK So I have two Cub kits and I am ready to put one on the work bench but I am not sure what one to build this fall winter . I have the Sig Cub 1/6 scale kit that is an older but complete and looks like a 70`s kit from what I have researched . I also have a 1/4 scale Sig Cub that I bought last year and did not start on as it was too late in the building season for me to get to it and I started on a Kadet LT40 . This kit will be number five for me and all have been Sig Kits # 1 Cloud Ranger #2 Cessna 180 Sky wagon #3 Kavalier #4 Kadet LT40 .
From what I have seen the 1/4 Scale Cub looks to be a better designed kit ? What do you guys think ?
I would definitely build the 1/4 scale cub, as the 1/6 scale is a true builder's kit. I have build both and personally I would not build another Sig 1/6 cub. You will get more pleasure out of the 1/4 scale also.
Old 09-15-2014, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mustangherb
I would definitely build the 1/4 scale cub, as the 1/6 scale is a true builder's kit. I have build both and personally I would not build another Sig 1/6 cub. You will get more pleasure out of the 1/4 scale also.
Thanks ! I was leaning more towards the 1/4 scale kit . I will have to make sure the work bench is completely cleaned off for this project
Old 09-15-2014, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly North
OK So I have two Cub kits and I am ready to put one on the work bench but I am not sure what one to build this fall winter . I have the Sig Cub 1/6 scale kit that is an older but complete and looks like a 70`s kit from what I have researched . I also have a 1/4 scale Sig Cub that I bought last year and did not start on as it was too late in the building season for me to get to it and I started on a Kadet LT40 . This kit will be number five for me and all have been Sig Kits # 1 Cloud Ranger #2 Cessna 180 Sky wagon #3 Kavalier #4 Kadet LT40 . From what I have seen the 1/4 Scale Cub looks to be a better designed kit ? What do you guys think ?
Originally Posted by mustangherb
I would definitely build the 1/4 scale cub, as the 1/6 scale is a true builder's kit. I have build both and personally I would not build another Sig 1/6 cub. You will get more pleasure out of the 1/4 scale also.
I would have to agree with mustangherb... the 1/6 cub kit is an old die stamped kit and the part fit needs a lot meticulous care when assembling those parts... its a build that requires plenty of time and patience... the 1/4 cub has some die cut parts as well, but being as big as it is, isn't so tedious to assemble... not to mention, once your fly the big 1/4 cub, you may not want to go with something smaller; the big birds fly sooo nice!!



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Old 09-15-2014, 11:34 AM
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I have the same 70s kit and you want to build the 1/4 scale kit. The older kit besides die cut is no where near the quality and the 1/4 scale flies a lot better! For the record I built the 1/5 scale Cub its a great kit and has a two piece wing with the center section is part of the fuselage.

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Old 09-15-2014, 01:47 PM
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Thanks guys ! I will you keep you up to date on the build when I get started on it . I will most likely be around asking questions as the build moves along . I have two different Saitos I can use for this but I am interested to know your thoughts on them. I think I know what the answer will be but here are the two choices a Saito .91 and Saito 1.20 .
Old 09-15-2014, 06:20 PM
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Definitely go with the 1.20 on the 1/4 cub... it should be powerful enough for scale flying... I had a Saito 1.30 twin on my cub and it had plenty of power... a single cylinder will produce more power over a twin of the same capacity due to the added reciprocating weight of the twin... so the 1.20 should out perform my setup, but not by a huge margin... after saying all that, I was pleased with 1.30's performance at that time.




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Old 09-15-2014, 06:55 PM
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Thanks John the 1.20 it is and I will put it away for this build
Old 09-15-2014, 08:33 PM
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A better choice would a gas engine. DLE 30 or 35, my 1/4 scale Cubs has always had a Zenoah 38 powering them.







Seems like I always have a Cub to fly, Love them

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Old 09-16-2014, 03:16 AM
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Beautful looking cubs Rich! I may give the engine choice some thought as I get going with the build . The only thing that holds me back is I have the Saito waiting for a home and new engines are not too cheap .
Old 09-16-2014, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jwrich
A better choice would a gas engine. DLE 30 or 35, my 1/4 scale Cubs has always had a Zenoah 38 powering them.







Seems like I always have a Cub to fly, Love them

Rich

Even better with an FA-180. Ample power W/O the weed whacker noise.

http://youtu.be/tN1_-xmVLIo
Old 09-16-2014, 07:36 AM
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Thanks Leroy and John M for the advice.

I think I will give it a go with a KIT. I work on equipment for a living and used to work on full size airplanes and helicopters years ago. I actually helped finish the cockpit of a cub - built the door and mounting system.

I may ask lots of questions so I apologize in advance and thank everyone in advance.......................!!!

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Old 09-16-2014, 07:37 AM
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The other reason for the kit is that the "boss" won't give me such a hard time since it is less expensive than an ARF.....................
Old 09-16-2014, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SrTelemaster150
Even better with an FA-180. Ample power W/O the weed whacker noise.

http://youtu.be/tN1_-xmVLIo
Wow nice video ! It makes me want to go flying right now

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The other reason for the kit is that the "boss" won't give me such a hard time since it is less expensive than an ARF.....................
Is that what you are telling her ?
Old 09-16-2014, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Corsair2013
The other reason for the kit is that the "boss" won't give me such a hard time since it is less expensive than an ARF.....................
Until she adds up everything you need to complete the kit!
Old 09-16-2014, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Corsair2013
The other reason for the kit is that the "boss" won't give me such a hard time since it is less expensive than an ARF.....................
Kieth I don't want to burst your bubble but building a kit can cost more than an ARF. So much depends on the extras often bought to replace some of the kits shabby parts and the covering can add alot to the cost. Alot of that is off set in the joy of building and what you want in the end. Regardless of how you build it, straight out of the box of lumber or with some up grades just have fun and the pride of building your own, there is nothing like that with a ARF.

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Old 09-16-2014, 09:55 AM
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Just don't tell his wife Leroy!!!!
Old 09-16-2014, 10:23 AM
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If a first time builder, the 1/5th SIG Cub is a good starter kit, right along the lines of the LT-40, the only exception is you have to solder parts for the landing gear, but everything else falls right into place as it is all laser cut. It comes with plans and details for both the full and clipped wing versions. If I had gone with Ultracote it would be done, but I went with Koverall and dope and still not finished.
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Until she adds up everything you need to complete the kit!
Right !! ... buy a little, hide a little...


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Old 09-16-2014, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by John_M_
Right !! ... buy a little, hide a little...


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Buy a little, hide a lot!
Old 09-16-2014, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly North
Beautful looking cubs Rich! I may give the engine choice some thought as I get going with the build . The only thing that holds me back is I have the Saito waiting for a home and new engines are not too cheap .
Rich is right, a 1.50 or 1.80 would give you a better power to weight ratio... I believe the Saito 1.50 and 1.80 have the same foot print as the 1.20, so you could always upgrade when you find a deal on another engines... check ebay, there's some pretty good deals on used engines... but your 1.20 should be fine as long as you don't build heavy... my cub with the 1.30 weighted in at 16.5 lbs... if you end up around 18 -19 lbs then you'll need to consider the 1.50 - 1.80 or equivalent gasser.


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Old 09-16-2014, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by acerc
Buy a little, hide a lot!
lol,


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Old 09-16-2014, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by John_M_
Rich is right, a 1.50 or 1.80 would give you a better power to weight ratio... I believe the Saito 1.50 and 1.80 have the same foot print as the 1.20, so you could always upgrade when you find a deal on another engines... check ebay, there's some pretty good deals on used engines... but your 1.20 should be fine as long as you don't build heavy... my cub with the 1.30 weighted in at 16.5 lbs... if you end up around 18 -19 lbs then you'll need to consider the 1.50 - 1.80 or equivalent gasser.


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Thanks John I will keep my eyes open for a different power plant for it . I should have most of the winter to look as I figure at my building pace it will take me that long to have it ready to fly


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