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Old 02-12-2015, 07:01 AM
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Leroy, I like your flap hinge drill jig.- looks much more accurate than "eyeballing and drilling" John R.
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Originally Posted by Leroy Gardner
Well there is a lot of info. on the subject of the jury struts and I'm going to be using the brass tubes made oval. 3/8" looks to be big enough and it's easy to jump a size. Also the door handle is doable with an idea I have mixed with some others I have seen, I will post what I come up with.

On with the fun stuff, hinging the ailerons & flaps. First of all a good guide and layout is critical to a good job, I made the drilling jig out of a 2X2 cut on my band saw which cuts very nice and square, once its drilled for the guide it's hardened with thin CA, only other things needed is a 1/4" wide file and a 1/4" brad point bit which cuts cleaner than a standard bit in soft balsa.With the guide clamped on (center is found looking into guide hole) drill it, file the 4 sides and test fit a hinge butt then move to the next one and repeat.Fit is perfect and I mean perfect, hope to do as well on the others, movement is very smooth and there is plenty of travel on the flap. I really wanted to see it on the plane, I'm very happy the way it's coming out.



Very nice Leroy, the square hing posts look spot on ... the gap between the flap and false spare when the flap is fully extended, is temporary?



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Old 02-12-2015, 11:59 AM
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John, it looks more like he is going for a slotted flap configuration with the gap.
Old 02-12-2015, 12:54 PM
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Well I might as well add my 2 pennies worth, With the gap the added low pressure behind the flap at full flaps will slow the cub down a lot, and at normal flap angles they will add clean lift as the it goes up and over the flap.

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Yes I understand its a slotted flap, it provides better lift... it may just be the angle the image was taken from... the image from the top side, the gap looks a lot smaller.



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My biggest misunderstanding is why people will argue what is scale "don't look right". These Cub flaps is another perfect example of a dead scale build conceived as "don't look right". I get it all the time on my builds and it is most annoying.
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I think it looks perfect.
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Originally Posted by John_M_
Very nice Leroy, the square hing posts look spot on ... the gap between the flap and false spare when the flap is fully extended, is temporary?



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You builders should know that there is an extension beyond the false spar top directly over the flap at the trailing edge of wing, it addresses that gap when the flap is full down. Mine will get that after the covering and the leading edge of flap will get a bit different contour before it's done.
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Your flaps look plenty cool to me.
Nice work Leroy.
Square peg, round hole ! That makes you General material.

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Originally Posted by acerc
My biggest misunderstanding is why people will argue what is scale "don't look right". These Cub flaps is another perfect example of a dead scale build conceived as "don't look right". I get it all the time on my builds and it is most annoying.
Originally Posted by Leroy Gardner
You builders should know that there is an extension beyond the false spar top directly over the flap at the trailing edge of wing, it addresses that gap when the flap is full down. Mine will get that after the covering and the leading edge of flap will get a bit different contour before it's done.

I wasn't saying it was out of scale, I already commented on the appearance, it's an exceptional job well done!... the gap looked excessive, and I made a inquiry, it wasn't clear to me if he had set the gap up or if he had purposely pulled it away from the false spar to better show the hinges... just curious guys, I'm trying to keep in on topic and not wonder off in my own little world

The extension on the top side of the false spar explains it Leroy... I knew there was something more to it... the hinge detail is first rate, superior job mate!




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Leroy, can we get some details, on those scale hinges. My apologies, if I missed it in earlier posts. John R.
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Leroy, I have a feeling your idea of "as scale as reasonable" is more like "as scale as possible irregardless of what it takes", my kind of builder. A car company has an expression I like, "The pursuit of perfection", it is not perfection we enjoy for perfection is unattainable but rather the thrill of the pursuit.
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Originally Posted by acerc
"The pursuit of perfection", it is not perfection we enjoy for perfection is unattainable but rather the thrill of the pursuit.
Me likes that too !

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Originally Posted by Melchizedek
Me likes that too !

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Yes Sir, you definitely are!
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Originally Posted by acerc
Leroy, I have a feeling your idea of "as scale as reasonable" is more like "as scale as possible irregardless of what it takes", my kind of builder. A car company has an expression I like, "The pursuit of perfection", it is not perfection we enjoy for perfection is unattainable but rather the thrill of the pursuit.

You just have to take a look at his custom Spacewalker to know this, its the capital "P" in perfection... he certainly has the patients of a saint!


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