Calrl Goldberg Tiger 60 Build
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#327
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With more than a foot of snow on the ground, it is still snowing...
Photo 1- Shows how the tiller arm moves the tail wheel. Using a short threaded rod screwed into a "t" nut inside the rudder worked out great. That's a 2-56 ball link that you see engaged with the tiller arm. BTW, no need to thread lock the rod in place as the tiller arm prevents it from backing out. I would much rather it come out easily when and if need be.
Photo 2- At the base of the fuselage you can see the screw that secures the rudder hinge. If the rudder were ever to get damaged, replacing it would be very easy. The hinge pins slides in and out easily if the hinges are correctly aligned.
Photo 1- Shows how the tiller arm moves the tail wheel. Using a short threaded rod screwed into a "t" nut inside the rudder worked out great. That's a 2-56 ball link that you see engaged with the tiller arm. BTW, no need to thread lock the rod in place as the tiller arm prevents it from backing out. I would much rather it come out easily when and if need be.
Photo 2- At the base of the fuselage you can see the screw that secures the rudder hinge. If the rudder were ever to get damaged, replacing it would be very easy. The hinge pins slides in and out easily if the hinges are correctly aligned.
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-09-2018 at 01:20 AM.
#328
Been reading about your nor'easter's Vince, life is great in north Idaho, we didn't get anything like what you folks have had to go through this winter. Look at it this way, spring is right around the corner. Should help in finishing your plane.
Leroy
Leroy
#329
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Leroy, that was quite a "load" of snow Mother Nature dumped on us. The good news is, with it being March, the temperature usually makes it melt rather quickly.
I forgot to order a battery for my Tiger, which I did yesterday. (I'm using a LiFe 6.6V 3200mAh battery.) With my local hobby shop closed for good, I'm feeling the effects of no longer having the luxury jumping in my vehicle buying what I need, when I need it and having it in my hands in just a matter of hours. Now I have to wait days and pay extra for shipping! I will start on the wheel pants shortly as well as fit the canopy in place. Just in time to fly this bird as the weather will be getting better soon!
Yesterday I fit all of the linkages with 4-40 rods in place for the rudder and elevator. Nice to see them fully functional from my Tx. Still need to set up my throttle, which I may do this evening.
I forgot to order a battery for my Tiger, which I did yesterday. (I'm using a LiFe 6.6V 3200mAh battery.) With my local hobby shop closed for good, I'm feeling the effects of no longer having the luxury jumping in my vehicle buying what I need, when I need it and having it in my hands in just a matter of hours. Now I have to wait days and pay extra for shipping! I will start on the wheel pants shortly as well as fit the canopy in place. Just in time to fly this bird as the weather will be getting better soon!
Yesterday I fit all of the linkages with 4-40 rods in place for the rudder and elevator. Nice to see them fully functional from my Tx. Still need to set up my throttle, which I may do this evening.
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-09-2018 at 11:07 AM.
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Leroy, that was quite a "load" of snow Mother Nature dumped on us. The good news is, with it being March, the temperature usually makes it melt rather quickly.
I forgot to order the battery for my Tiger, which I did yesterday. With my local hobby shop closed for good, I'm feeling the effects of no longer having the luxury jumping in my vehicle buying what I need, when I need it and having it in my hands in just a matter of hours. Now I have to wait days and pay extra for shipping! I will start on the wheel pants shortly as well as fit the canopy in place. Just in time to fly this bird as the weather will be getting better soon!
Yesterday I fit all of the linkages with 4-40 rods in place for the rudder and elevator. Nice to see them fully functional from my Tx. Still need to set up my throttle, which I may do this evening.
I forgot to order the battery for my Tiger, which I did yesterday. With my local hobby shop closed for good, I'm feeling the effects of no longer having the luxury jumping in my vehicle buying what I need, when I need it and having it in my hands in just a matter of hours. Now I have to wait days and pay extra for shipping! I will start on the wheel pants shortly as well as fit the canopy in place. Just in time to fly this bird as the weather will be getting better soon!
Yesterday I fit all of the linkages with 4-40 rods in place for the rudder and elevator. Nice to see them fully functional from my Tx. Still need to set up my throttle, which I may do this evening.
You'll adapt to the lack of a LHS.
We have one, but they cater to the "Safe" crowd. I have to make 99.9% of my purchases, online. It makes one plan ahead.
We didn't get nearly the amount of snow, as you did. We have about 8", spread over several days.
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Here's a look at how my canopy came out before I spray a white border around its perimeter. By spraying it , this will hide the wooden frame beneath giving it a more finished look. The canopy was secured to its framework with canopy glue and the small screws visible, which did a great job of acting as clamps while the canopy glue set.
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-11-2018 at 07:57 AM.
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That's a weird looking picture Vincent, it's hard to tell what it is, something from outer space maybe. "Well I know what it is", good to have the experience on these things, screws will look good on it, it's a nice looking piece of plastic, shinny and I'd rather see it on the plane, hint, hint.
Leroy
Leroy
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Say it ain't so...AGAIN Mother Nature has NH in her sights. Tomorrow's prediction for snow is up to 18 inches! Please, I've had enough!!!
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-12-2018 at 10:10 AM.
#336
Or maybe that it's time to move? In the Puget Sound basin of Washington, we have mid 70s today. Bad part is that I'm stuck inside an aircraft factory for the next 8.5 hours
#337
Sounds like he might be spending a lot of time moving the stuff around. Sunshine for the last 3 days, I think it's safe to say we have had enough snow in town and winter is on the way out, sun sure feels good.
Keep the home fires burning Vince, your bound to get a break sooner than later.
Leroy
Keep the home fires burning Vince, your bound to get a break sooner than later.
Leroy
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Well school was cancelled as expected, our Nor-Easter has begun. Predictions vary as to the amount expected with the minimum being over a foot of snow with strong winds. I pray that my power stays on!
Leroy is this picture of my canopy more to your liking? As you can see I sprayed the white boarder, and it did make a difference. I learned a lot making this removable canopy as this was my first. If I make another, I will better know what to do or rather what not to do...
Leroy is this picture of my canopy more to your liking? As you can see I sprayed the white boarder, and it did make a difference. I learned a lot making this removable canopy as this was my first. If I make another, I will better know what to do or rather what not to do...
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Upper left post card winter picture for sure, living in the country is nice also. Let's hope your snow is the last of it, I can see where you could get real tired of it, kinda pretty though.
Well Vince your canopy could use a floor, back wall and pilot, still possible to do. There is very little room for balance weight on fire wall, if it's anything like mine it will need some. Sheeting on the wings is the reason for the weight, almost all of it is behind the CG, It will still fly great, you'll see.
Leroy
Well Vince your canopy could use a floor, back wall and pilot, still possible to do. There is very little room for balance weight on fire wall, if it's anything like mine it will need some. Sheeting on the wings is the reason for the weight, almost all of it is behind the CG, It will still fly great, you'll see.
Leroy
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The snow has finally stopped but the clean-up begins. As a result of the 18+ inches we received school is yet again cancelled. I was due to get my battery today via UPS, but I'm sure that will be delayed as well.
Leroy, the back of the firewall area is relatively open. I will be able to add ballast there if need be, but to be honest, I don't think it will need any. I have kept the canopy floor open by design, I want to be able to monitor the level of fuel in the tank while I'm re-fueling. The tank is placed directly over the planes's CG for all around better flying characteristics regardless of the level of fuel in the tank.
Leroy, the back of the firewall area is relatively open. I will be able to add ballast there if need be, but to be honest, I don't think it will need any. I have kept the canopy floor open by design, I want to be able to monitor the level of fuel in the tank while I'm re-fueling. The tank is placed directly over the planes's CG for all around better flying characteristics regardless of the level of fuel in the tank.
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-14-2018 at 03:28 AM.
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Are you seriously going to let us learn on our own? LOL..
Or will you share your learning experience
By the way, I like how it turned out. (But it does need a pilot with or without a floor.)
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Sorry Rick, no pilot on this one... sure I'll share. I'm going outside with a snow shovel now, so I'll post when I have a bit more time.
I tried to weigh my Tiger, and wouldn't you know it the battery is dead on my scale. As soon as my battery comes my Tiger will be ready for its maiden, of course I will wait for the snow to melt first! But here are a couple of pics on how she looks right now. I decided that I am going to maiden it without a cowl, I will make one, but I'm a bit burnt out and I need to take a short break away from my build table and spend some time at the flying field...
I tried to weigh my Tiger, and wouldn't you know it the battery is dead on my scale. As soon as my battery comes my Tiger will be ready for its maiden, of course I will wait for the snow to melt first! But here are a couple of pics on how she looks right now. I decided that I am going to maiden it without a cowl, I will make one, but I'm a bit burnt out and I need to take a short break away from my build table and spend some time at the flying field...
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-14-2018 at 09:00 AM.
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I finished all of my outside chores and just came back from the hardware store with a new battery for my scale......with my Tiger fully assembled, it came in with a flying weight of 9.6 pounds. (That is including a battery) I'm pleased with that, considering the stock flying weight of this bird is between 6.5 - 7.5 pounds. With a fully sheeted wing, an aluminum wing tube, larger tail surfaces and with a much larger engine, I'm only 2 pounds over! Now I have to check the balance and hopefully I won't have to add any weight to it...
Rick, you had asked earlier about my canopy and what I had learned from building it. Building the frame for the canopy was pretty much straight forward, the changes that I would make on the next would be the following; First, the two rear tabs that secure the canopy's framework to the fuselage should not have been glued in. I should have waited to glue them into place after the plastic canopy was secured and fitted to its framework. Speaking of the tabs, I used 2-56 cap head screws to secure the canopy to the fuse, next time I would use at a minimum 4-40 or better still 6-32, because that would have left me more options to use different screws to secure the canopy down that wouldn't rely on having to use tools to tighten or loosen the screws.
Second, I would not have trimmed the canopy before I glued and screwed it down. I should have left it hang over the frame by about 1/4", because it would have been so much easier and more accurate to get a perfect fit to hold the canopy/frame against my 12" disc sander and get it to fit exactly flush with the wooden frame. This is the reason why I said not to glue the mounting tabs in place because they get in the way.
Third, drill the holes for the small screws that secure the canopy to the framework only after the framework is installed on the fuselage and bolted in place. This will ensure the frame for the canopy doesn't rack or twist when securing the plastic canopy.
Well that's about it. Now you know!
Rick, you had asked earlier about my canopy and what I had learned from building it. Building the frame for the canopy was pretty much straight forward, the changes that I would make on the next would be the following; First, the two rear tabs that secure the canopy's framework to the fuselage should not have been glued in. I should have waited to glue them into place after the plastic canopy was secured and fitted to its framework. Speaking of the tabs, I used 2-56 cap head screws to secure the canopy to the fuse, next time I would use at a minimum 4-40 or better still 6-32, because that would have left me more options to use different screws to secure the canopy down that wouldn't rely on having to use tools to tighten or loosen the screws.
Second, I would not have trimmed the canopy before I glued and screwed it down. I should have left it hang over the frame by about 1/4", because it would have been so much easier and more accurate to get a perfect fit to hold the canopy/frame against my 12" disc sander and get it to fit exactly flush with the wooden frame. This is the reason why I said not to glue the mounting tabs in place because they get in the way.
Third, drill the holes for the small screws that secure the canopy to the framework only after the framework is installed on the fuselage and bolted in place. This will ensure the frame for the canopy doesn't rack or twist when securing the plastic canopy.
Well that's about it. Now you know!
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-15-2018 at 07:02 AM.
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Vince,
As trivial as that may seem..... That is some valuable insight for me.
I too would have trimmed the canopy too soon and would have probably drilled and screwed the plastic to the frame without out it mounted to the fuse.
Anyway, I still like how you did the canopy. It is nice to have clear access to the top of the fuse in that manner. Plus, it looks really nice.
How many square inches of wing does that plane have?
As trivial as that may seem..... That is some valuable insight for me.
I too would have trimmed the canopy too soon and would have probably drilled and screwed the plastic to the frame without out it mounted to the fuse.
Anyway, I still like how you did the canopy. It is nice to have clear access to the top of the fuse in that manner. Plus, it looks really nice.
How many square inches of wing does that plane have?
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I left the top open Rick, because it is so easy to refuel a plane without spewing excess fuel on the ground. It is very convenient and good for the environment. I can also detect early if a fuel leak starts to develop...
The stock wing span of this plane is 70" which has a total of 855 sq. inches, but I reduced the wing span down to 68". Each wing panel is 31.5" in length with a width of 12.75", so roughly each wing panel is 401.625 sq. inches multiplied by 2 giving a total of 803.25 sq. inches.
The stock wing span of this plane is 70" which has a total of 855 sq. inches, but I reduced the wing span down to 68". Each wing panel is 31.5" in length with a width of 12.75", so roughly each wing panel is 401.625 sq. inches multiplied by 2 giving a total of 803.25 sq. inches.
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-15-2018 at 04:45 AM.
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It was always my contention to shorten the wings Mike. If I remember correctly, the spacing between each rib on the stock build was 4 inches and I wasn't happy with that amount of spacing, so by reducing the spacing between each rib to 3 inches, it worked out to the final dimension that I have. Reducing the spacing to 3 inches as well as sheeting the entire wing will give the wings much more strength for aerobatic maneuvers.
Last edited by VincentJ; 03-15-2018 at 05:14 AM.