I'm planning on mounting a Saito 180 on a Dave Patrick Ultimate and need suggestions on engine orientation and muffler selection. I'd like to minimize cutting the cowl as much as possible. Your recommendations?

If it was me I would invert it and use the stock muffler.You will have to cut a hole in the bottom which isn't too noticeable.

Thanks Spiccoli. I'll post pictures when I've got it done.

Just curious what your flying weight is on the ultimate. A guy in our club has one with a YS 140 and he came out at 17 lbs. That seems pretty heavy.

Thanks, Tim

The one DP Ultimate in our club weighs about 10 lbs and flies good with a OS120.I dont know what would make one weigh 17 lbs.

I haven't started assembly yet...just doing the research. I have everything just about ready to start.

17lbs sounds really heavy. I thought they were supposed to come out around 12lbs max.

17lbs?What's got for an engine a DA150? LOL.

Mine ways under 12lbs with a ys 140 or 120. I've flown it with both powerplants.