O.k., Winter is here in MI and i am looking for a larger BIPE kit to build. Anyone with ideas or locations for kits, other than the basic Goldberg, Great Planes offerings? Thanks in Advance Ed. Also, am looking for a Bucker Youngman kit.

How big is "larger"? Balsa USA makes a bunch of 1/4 scale WWI stuff, as well as some non-scale stuff. The Phaeton 90 is a nice plane, 70 inch wingspan; it's a good plane to kitbash into something like a great Lakes trainer,etc. Takes a .90-1.20 glow engine, a G-23 would even fit.

Now if you stuff a Zenoah G-26 on her nose, round the wing tips, add upper ailerons (using two high-torque brushless servos burried under hatches, one in each lower wing and 4-40 rod connectors to uppers, instead of one central with torque rods), thin the top wing's airfoil by 3/16" or so and set the incedences to 0-0-0 and put narrow 5.6" WWI wheels on the mains you have the makings of a day-to-day rugged sport plane that kind of looks like a Curtiss F6C from the 30's.

At least that's my winter build plans.

I just received the Phaeton 90 kit from BalsaUSA and am drawing up my "bashes" to make sure they'll work. Figure while I'm at it a smoke system would be fun. Definalely a builder's kit. Minimal hardware, and they don't disrupt your creative juices by showing much of anything besides the airframe on the plans. Good balsa and very good die cutting.

I've asked Santa to help me sell the darned house I moved out of in June to bankroll the motor & radio. Local real-estate has tanked. Figures. Be starting on the kit right after Christmas. Should be a fun build.

Oh - and reverse the "N" struts. They're backwards in the instructions and on the plans. Diagonal goes lower front to upper rear - shorter run and true-to scale for almost all biplanes.

PS - search under Bu-131 BÃœCKER JÃœNGMANN (inline) or Bu-133 BÃœCKER JÃœNGMEISTER (radial) for your other biplane.

Hi there. Check out Arizona models. They have a nice Jungmeister in three sizes. http://arizonamodels.com/product_inf...roducts_id/121

Thanks for replies, the Phaeton 90 looks interesting, Sadly the only WW1 Type for me would be Dr. 1. Looking for an every day rugged sport type.

Lanier makes a Pitts that is fairly good. Flies nice if built light.

I'm not sure that your post is clear about the BÃœCKER designation. The designation and names have nothing to do with the engine, but rather one seat or two.

i'm partial to hog bipes and aeromasters. If you do a bit of searching, there's a guy with a build thread on here, bashing a hog bipe into a der Jager..

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_42...tm.htm#4222020

Try the Lanier Ulimate Pitts, I power mine with 1.35 Moki and use futaba 148s for the ailerons. Doesn't have unlimited verticial but it does fly nice and lands easy . Does a great flat spin, will do about anthing you can think of. Here is pic of the fusalage on the wall with a Midwest Citabria and aOMP gaint scale 540 edge profile, just to give you a idea how big the fusalage is. Kit builds straight forward and is well worth the money. Thats my two cents.

The 131 is a tandem two-seater. In the images I attached that isn't obvious, but the slim nose of it's in-line engine is in contrast to the Bu-133's radial. You can't label the images here, so . . .

GP Ultimate? I built one at it is a very fun plane to fly. The build was pretty straight forward. This plane does to most insane negative snaps/tumbles I have ever seen. The only negative with this model is that it is a touch on the small side. It would be fantastic if the span was about 200mm more.

Gentleman, Thanks for replies! I just found the Lanier kit on-line, looks interesting... any more on the flying characteristics? The general problem was most kits were WW1 or WW2, or just plain too small for a biplane. Ideally something in the 55-75" range would be fun. I also checked out the profile bipe offered by OMP. I even checked with aero-works on their Ulitmates...Not in production any more.

Check out Wendell Hostetler for a Bucker:

http://www.aero-sports.com/whplans/


Also, a search for "bucker" on RCU will turn up Larry Lutton, who sells plans for the TOC Buckers that Steve Rojecki flew, built by Dick Hanson.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_36...tm.htm#3679167

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_17...tm.htm#1759493


Enjoy,
Mark

i'll throw in the GP Super Skybolt.....lots of parts, lots of shaping, lots of sanding. just put flights # 2 3 and 4 on mine today.......i'm liking it better each time she goes up.

Charlie,
My P90 was initially setup 0-0-0. It flew good but floated forever during landing. Had to fly it all the way to touch down. It would stall just above the runway if you tried a idled down slow landing. I modified the top wing with -2deg incedence and turned it into a whole new plane. Lands like a trainer and does very slow speed aerobatics effortly. Mine is powered with a saito 120. Just an FYI on the incedence.
Edwin

Almost forgot, four ailerons on high rate are MUCH better than two.

Good to know. Thanks.

I like planes with wide speed envelopes. That's one of the reasons I share Khodges "concern" about WWI models as day-to-day fun models for sport flying. Bring 'em in a little slow and they fall out of the sky. Still lots of fun and full of history, but drag city with all that frontal area. And then there's th 45 minutes of attaching the flying and landing wires.

Yeah, but not much looks better than a bipe doing slow aerobatics. The hassle is worth it while you're flying. Just a pain when setting up and tearing down.
Edwin

Found some other pictures of my Ultimate pitts

That's why the squint scale "sport" bipes without flying and landing wires appeal to me. What is it we used to call the control line models? 50 Scale? As in: "Looks scale at 50 feet". Though, I see GP calls for using elastic thread loops hooked over the strut attachment points to rig their Stearman very quickly. That shows promise (until the elastic stretches out). You're right though. The period where you forget to breathe as a large Tiger Moth tops a loop and you're wondering if it will "come out" the other side. Just gorgeous.

Here is a few other pics Hog bipe, Sig Ultimate fun fly, GP Ultimate

How bout a Nosen Gere Sport. Mine was a lot of fun till I sold it.