Exactly as the title says, I'd prefer a trainer type aircraft though for what I want to do. I really like the Hobbistar 60, but I am really wanting to do a kit so I can do some mods to it right from the start.

Thanks!

Sounds like you need a Protege!
http://www.carlgoldbergproducts.com/protege.htm

I have a Great Planes PT-60. It was built with zero dihedral in the wing, and is a tail dragger. The kit is designed so you have the choice of wing bolts or rubber bands. All parts are included for either configuration.

And, of course, the Senior Telemaster from Hobby Lobby is always an option.

Great options, thanks!

I would never build another telemaster. The one I did had poor quality wood and bad die cuts. Ended up using more wood from the reserves than what came with it.

I cast a second vote for the Goldberg Protege. You can start it out as a trainer, then when you feel more comfortable you simply shift the CG vslightly and it becomes a very nice aerobatic plane. Not 3D mind you...but very capable. I've been flying for almost 10 years now and it is one of my favorite planes. Instructions leave a bit to be desired, but just study any step carefully that does not seem clear and dry fit everything before gluing...what is intended to come across in the instructions will generally make itself very clear after a bit of study. I run a .61 2 stroke on mine and love it!

Well, the protege seems like a pretty nice aircraft. I will probably do that.

Does anyone know what the airfoil is? I am guessing USA-35B, but I am not sure.

Thanks for the opinions all!

I too have an itch for a 60 size kit.

What say you to a Lanier Stinger 60?

Looks like a nice plane to me. I like the mid-wing design.

Anyone have experience with it, or any other Lanier kits?

I've built a couple of Great Planes kits, and one Sig Four-Star 40, but I wonder about the quality of a Lanier kit.

Fever

For Sport Flying, remember the Ultra Sport 60 has been re-released.

You could build either the Sig LT-40 or Kadet Senior. Although both are ".40" size planes they have wingspans almost the size of ".60" size trainers. Another thought is the Sig 4 Star 60. Not quite a trainer, but a GREAT second plane!!!!!!

I've built the LT-40 and 4* and both are great kits.

Ah, didn't know about the sig kadet senior. I presume that all the flat-bottomed airfoils are the same airfoil (except for the telemaster)?

I need to know for the mods I want to do. I am still liking the protege, but if the kadet senior can carry a .60 engine, that would be an option.

What mods are you planning?

I am going to turn it into a Twin Otter basically. The trainer type aircraft just suits my needs best for that aircraft.

Plus a .60 size kit carrying two .46 engines lets me practice for the same size aircraft as the TF Cessna 310.

Re Kadet Senior - many locals use either .65 2S or .91 4S with great results.

just sign me newbie in Denver ...

Which club do you use? I fly out of Boulder, but that is good info to have. Aren't those Kadets extremely overpowered though?

You're best off just ordering a Twin Star from Hobbico http://www.hobbico.com/airplanes/hcaa2076.html or better yet a Twin Air kit!

The Twin Air kit is a great build with excellent quality! http://ne-aero.com/kits.html

Good luck!

Neither of those will allow me to build a Twin Otter though. I need a high-wing with dihedral, hence the trainer.

There is a really good article in this months Model Aviation on converting a trainer into a twin. Can't remember of the top of my head witch one it was. Good article though.

I missed that, I thought you just wanted practice for the 310

You want to build one of these

Yes, exactly!!! That is one good-looking airplane!

You may wan to try a SIG airplane like a SIG FOUR - STAR 60.

the ama magazine, as someone already said, has a great article about converting a trainer to a twin. in fact it has an entire section devoted to building and flying twins. good luck

Why not a twin stick. You can buy the cheap arf or just convert your own. It has been done many,many times.
fred

Another vote for the Kadet Sr here. It takes a while but it's a lot of fun to build. Flies well on anything from a .40 2 stroke to a .90 4 stroke. Not sure about the twin conversion, though. Haven't tried that.