I would like to build a "60" size KAOS kit..... GP made a KAOS and Super KAOS, Bridi had a Ultra and Utter Kaos and there are probably some more KAOS kits out there.

Question...... Are they all about the same or is one superior ?

thanks,
Bill

If I were you I would try and find a GP Super Kaos. IMO it is the best of the bunch. It is an original Bridi design, with the typical GP building techniques added. I have at one time or another had one example of every Kaos, or Chaos that Bridi has designed. The Utter Chaos, while an excellent flier has in my opinion some building issues that I do not care for.

I am currently flying a GP 40 size Kaos that is true to the Kaos lineage. I have a Super Tigre S45K ABC on it, and it is a blast. Like all the GP kits, it is a little over built, but IMO the Utter Chaos goes to the extreme in the other direction.

You will not find many planes that are more honest than a Kaos.

Vince

Bill,
If you decide to go with a Bridi Kit, he has two to choose from. (at least at last check with him he did. I understand he was trying to sell off his inventory) There is a tri-gear (Total Kaos), and a tail dragger, with side mounted engine. (Killer Kaos). Both kits require good building skills/experience as the instructions are all verbal referring to the plans. (no pictures) Both are excellent fliers!!

I have a Direct Connection Koas 60, it is very easy to build and a fantastic flyer. If you can find one I would definitely recommend it.

I have a Killer Chaos (kit) that I picked up from Joe Bridi. It is a .60 size Chaos that is almost Identical to the Ultimate Kaos that was sold by Direct Connection. Just a slight variation in the horizontal stab and elevator placement from what I understand. I fly mine with a plain old Os 60 fp and it has plenty of power for huge loops and pretty good vertical (not unlimited though). The plane is a super sweet flyer (my favorite so far). I believe Joe still has some in stock. www.bridiradiocontrol.com The Killer Chaos is listed under the "sport" catagory.


Ed H

You are right ED, I forgot to mention Killer Koas and DC Koas are the same. BTW good price at Birdi, very tempting to get a second one.

Thanks guys for your opinions......very much appreciated.

Bill

BTW good price at Birdi, very tempting to get a second one. [/B][/QUOTE]

I've got an Utter Kaos in the box and I too want to get the Killer. Hope Joe has another on the shelf.

kaos 60or 40

OK, a 10 year old thread, cool to see them pop up like this. The Kaos was a Bridi design and as I recall a 7 time class C winner. Probably one of the best flying planes of all times. Blue Jay Models is the cutter of the originals these days and the prices haven't gone up much from the days when Joe was still cutting them. I have flown them in all the different sizes and they all seem to fly the same, the smaller 40size is just quicker at everything. Blue Jay also cuts the Dirty Birdy that has a better look to it and will hold a better knife edge. My favorite is the 60 size but I liked the 80 incher as much as any of them. In the classic pattern forum there is a sticky just for the Kaos if that says anything to you.

46 to 60 rather 60 then 40

Where cqn i get the original 60 kaos kit

Not original, but a modern version@ http://www.eurekaaircraft.com/pattern.htm

Blue Jay Models, just go on line. They have a good selection of the Kaos planes.

Here's a link to Bluejay.
http://www.bridiairplanes.com/index.htm

I built one of the Killer Kaos kits from Bluejay quite a few years ago. It was a great kit, and an amazing flying plane. I lost it when the Stab came off! I would like to build another one some day. I currently need to finish a Sun Fli 5 I built from plans. It should be similar in flight performance.

I built a 40 size utter chaos from Blue Jay. It was a challenging but rewarding kit to build. It flies great. For a sport plane it lands extremely easy.

Laser cut short kits by http://lazer-works.com/rcm.html

Just a question, have you ever built this short kit?? I just question if the RCM plans were redrawn before they cut the kit. RCM and MAN plans are great but there is a lot of custom fitting needed during one of there plans build. Did they redraw them with CAD?
Does the short kit come with the gear and canopy?

Yes, I sent Eddie the RCM plans and he developed the laser cut parts from it. A short kit is exactly that. You get any balsa or plywood part that would otherwise require a pattern to cut. What you don't get is strip and sheet balsa, landing gear or canopy. All the parts fit exactly with no fiddling required.

Looks very nice!

I am not a fan of how the fuselage is engineered to be constructed. A simple mod makes it very easy to build a perfectly straight box fuse everytime. I lay the top sheeting of the fuse flat on the board, and draw a ceterline down the length. Then mark the former locations on the fuse top using a square. Then mark a centerline on all of the formers. Glue all of the formers in place, at their proper locations with the centerlines lined up, and keeping them all all vertically square. Next add the fuselage sides, gluing them in place in the forward end of the fuse first. Then pull the tail together and glue the aft portion of fuse, keeping the centerline intersecting where the fuse comes together. Add tri stock and bottom sheeting. After trimming the top flush to the sides, you will have a perfectly straight fuse.