1/4 scale cub covering
07-21-2011 | 12:58 PM
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RE: 1/4 scale cub covering
ORIGINAL: TripleDeucer
Rodney, that is exactly one of the questions I had for the Randolph rep, as maybe they miss labeled some nitrate with butyrate labels. Said no way and never offered any other help as to why I had problems with it.
I have a cupboard full of K&B epoxy, but was looking for the full scale finish. I started the job with nitrate and then switched to butyrate clear to seal the Koverall cloth. I put the nitrate away so as not to get it by mistake. Then followed up with the silver coat, white base coat and then the yellow. Everything turned out perfect and I was very happy until the first cleanup.
Rodney, that is exactly one of the questions I had for the Randolph rep, as maybe they miss labeled some nitrate with butyrate labels. Said no way and never offered any other help as to why I had problems with it.
I have a cupboard full of K&B epoxy, but was looking for the full scale finish. I started the job with nitrate and then switched to butyrate clear to seal the Koverall cloth. I put the nitrate away so as not to get it by mistake. Then followed up with the silver coat, white base coat and then the yellow. Everything turned out perfect and I was very happy until the first cleanup.
Zor
07-21-2011 | 02:33 PM
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RE: 1/4 scale cub covering
ORIGINAL: TripleDeucer
Simulated UV protection.
Simulated UV protection.
Yes, I knew that is why you applied it.
I wonder about the type of product and how it may have affected the dope.
Most any paint can go over the dope but the dope does not like to be applied over some type of products.
For example dope should not go over latex or over some oil based paints.
I did not observe such situation as you described by using just butyrate over nitrate.
Zor
07-21-2011 | 03:02 PM
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RE: 1/4 scale cub covering
ORIGINAL: TripleDeucer
The silver coat was Randolph butyrate dope just like the rest.
The silver coat was Randolph butyrate dope just like the rest.
These situations as you experienced are mysteries that contribute to make this hobby so fascinating.
I wonder if anyone else has hada similarexperience as you have had.
Personally I did not.
Zor
07-21-2011 | 05:01 PM
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RE: 1/4 scale cub covering
ceconite is a "shrinking" covering. it is usualy shrunk using a heat-gun. buterate dope finishes the shrink. i use it on all my models and recovered my full size stearman and a clip-wing cub with it. very few use cotton or linen any more.
07-23-2011 | 12:27 PM
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RE: 1/4 scale cub covering
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ceconite is a "shrinking" covering. it is usualy shrunk using a heat-gun. buterate dope finishes the shrink. i use it on all my models and recovered my full size stearman and a clip-wing cub with it. very few use cotton or linen any more.
ceconite is a "shrinking" covering. it is usualy shrunk using a heat-gun. buterate dope finishes the shrink. i use it on all my models and recovered my full size stearman and a clip-wing cub with it. very few use cotton or linen any more.
I just let the butyrate dope do its job and it thightens real well for years to come.
Zor
08-06-2011 | 05:42 PM
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RE: 1/4 scale cub covering
Ok, I have a CG 1/5.5 (18%) J-3 Cub that needs covering. As of now, my plan for covering is to paint the perimiter of the model with nitrate dope and then try to lay down the koverall while its still wet. If I can't get the Koverall down before the dope dries, I will use dope thinner to "reactivate" the dope to attach the koverall. I will then paint 2-3 coats of dope over the koverall, spray a couple of coats of rustoluem primer over that sanding between coats. After that I would spray on a few coats of rustoleum cub yellow (the kind that comes in quarts), and if I am satisfied with the coverage I will spray on some rustoleum automotive clearcoat to add to the durability and degree of fuel resistance. If there is anything wrong or unpractical with my plan or even a better way to use the sig Koverall, please let me know. BTW, I notice you guys discussing painting butrate dope over the nitrate dope to fuel proof the plane. If this is true, could I paint butrate dope over the Rustoluem to fuel proof the plane instead of automotive clearcoat?
Thank you very much, Phillip
Thank you very much, Phillip
