I’m considering building a big trainer
09-11-2009, 01:03 AM
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I’m considering building a big trainer
Hello,
Yes I’m considering building a UAV and I need to choose an airplane kit or ARF for that.
The airplane should be very easy to fly like a trainer.
I want the airplane to carry a video camera in its belly.
The camera would be mounted in a way it can turn and I’ll be able to change its angle.
The camera is a payload so there should be space for it.
There should be place for fuel to stay in the air for something like half an hour and probably powered by gas maybe even two motors.
The airplanes that I can think of are:
Senior Telemaster
Giant telemaster
Sig kadet senior
One of the cubs with the really big wing.
Any other ideas to carry all that stuff with ease?
Thanks
Alex
Yes I’m considering building a UAV and I need to choose an airplane kit or ARF for that.
The airplane should be very easy to fly like a trainer.
I want the airplane to carry a video camera in its belly.
The camera would be mounted in a way it can turn and I’ll be able to change its angle.
The camera is a payload so there should be space for it.
There should be place for fuel to stay in the air for something like half an hour and probably powered by gas maybe even two motors.
The airplanes that I can think of are:
Senior Telemaster
Giant telemaster
Sig kadet senior
One of the cubs with the really big wing.
Any other ideas to carry all that stuff with ease?
Thanks
Alex
09-11-2009, 07:40 AM
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RE: I’m considering building a big trainer
Try one of these cameras:
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/video_camera.htm
You can rotate the lens 90 degrees and it's so small that you can put it on an electric.
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/video_camera.htm
You can rotate the lens 90 degrees and it's so small that you can put it on an electric.
09-11-2009, 03:01 PM
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RE: I’m considering building a big trainer
I'd vote for AMR also. I've built two Giant Tele's, they are ALOT of work. I'm just finishing up the AMR Giant Stick and they are great kits. AMR has 50cc trainier and is close to releasing a new 100cc one.
09-11-2009, 04:56 PM
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RE: I’m considering building a big trainer
Thanks guys,
I'm reconsidering it now maybe to put this system on one of the trainers I already have before I go into building another trainer.
that little video camera does solve a big problem.
Alex
I'm reconsidering it now maybe to put this system on one of the trainers I already have before I go into building another trainer.
that little video camera does solve a big problem.
Alex
09-17-2009, 02:43 PM
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RE: I’m considering building a big trainer
Hello,
Just for your information, one of our customer did two Trainer50 for towing 40 pounds glider, conversion was done to electric, we can see videos links on trainer50 building thread.
We did few sketches to design a Payload Master Trainer 85 to 100cc engine.
This idea came from request by a University in our country.
We are still working on this project, not very hard to design.
Regards
Just for your information, one of our customer did two Trainer50 for towing 40 pounds glider, conversion was done to electric, we can see videos links on trainer50 building thread.
We did few sketches to design a Payload Master Trainer 85 to 100cc engine.
This idea came from request by a University in our country.
We are still working on this project, not very hard to design.
Regards
09-17-2009, 03:48 PM
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RE: I’m considering building a big trainer
I am just finishing up a Senior Telemaster for just this purpose....
I am also planning on using the FlyCam for video. I built my wings with two servo bays each. The inner most bay is for the aileron servo, the outer most will be for the camera. Hobby Lobby has enough goodies to make it mountable, and controlable from your radio.
Panning. I seen this handled in a quite clever manner. One guy mounted a cradle onto the servo arm, then mounted the servo on the belly of the plane. So side-to-side panning was pretty simple.
BUT.....!
If you think about it, how useful will panning be? Think about it. You're standing on the ground, looking at an airplane goodness knows how far away, and who knows what angle.. You have no way of knowing what the camera is going to see. There's really no way to know if you're panning the camera enough, left or right to see what you intend to see. You're probably better keeping the camera aligned with the axis of the plane, and turning the plane.
Now, if you ARE using a remote camera, so you're transmiting the video signal down to the base, then panning becomes feasable.
Tilting is a different matter. It's reasonably easy to know what the camera is looking at. Either down, or straight ahead (From the plane's perspective) And the Flycam is tiltable. Which is good. Because I can have the camara tilted forward for take-offs, low passes, and landing. Once at altitude, I'll tilt it down to look at the ground.
I am also planning on using the FlyCam for video. I built my wings with two servo bays each. The inner most bay is for the aileron servo, the outer most will be for the camera. Hobby Lobby has enough goodies to make it mountable, and controlable from your radio.
Panning. I seen this handled in a quite clever manner. One guy mounted a cradle onto the servo arm, then mounted the servo on the belly of the plane. So side-to-side panning was pretty simple.
BUT.....!
If you think about it, how useful will panning be? Think about it. You're standing on the ground, looking at an airplane goodness knows how far away, and who knows what angle.. You have no way of knowing what the camera is going to see. There's really no way to know if you're panning the camera enough, left or right to see what you intend to see. You're probably better keeping the camera aligned with the axis of the plane, and turning the plane.
Now, if you ARE using a remote camera, so you're transmiting the video signal down to the base, then panning becomes feasable.
Tilting is a different matter. It's reasonably easy to know what the camera is looking at. Either down, or straight ahead (From the plane's perspective) And the Flycam is tiltable. Which is good. Because I can have the camara tilted forward for take-offs, low passes, and landing. Once at altitude, I'll tilt it down to look at the ground.
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RE: I’m considering building a big trainer
Here a big one ,
wingspan ; 132"
wing cord; 24"
flap, aileron
Fuse lenght; 96"
Fuse ( firewall ) 10"
Engine; 85 to 100cc
wingspan ; 132"
wing cord; 24"
flap, aileron
Fuse lenght; 96"
Fuse ( firewall ) 10"
Engine; 85 to 100cc
02-11-2010, 02:16 PM
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RE: I’m considering building a big trainer
http://www.btemodels.com/sfk.html
Super Flying King from Bruce Tharpe Engineering
SPECIFICATIONS
Wingspan: 132 inches
Wing Area: 3380 square inches
Length: 95 inches
Weight: 36 pounds (approximate)
Engines: 60cc - 80cc Gas
(3.7 - 4.9 cu.in.)
Don
Super Flying King from Bruce Tharpe Engineering
SPECIFICATIONS
Wingspan: 132 inches
Wing Area: 3380 square inches
Length: 95 inches
Weight: 36 pounds (approximate)
Engines: 60cc - 80cc Gas
(3.7 - 4.9 cu.in.)
Don
03-02-2010, 11:30 AM
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RE: I’m considering building a big trainer
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Thanks guys,
I'm reconsidering it now maybe to put this system on one of the trainers I already have before I go into building another trainer.
that little video camera does solve a big problem.
Alex
Thanks guys,
I'm reconsidering it now maybe to put this system on one of the trainers I already have before I go into building another trainer.
that little video camera does solve a big problem.
Alex
