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http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse16d1430.jpg
Here is a pic of my fuse.  This is my first kit build.  I added a hatch on each side to hide switches, fuel, and air fill.  I plan on doing in "the Bug" scheme.

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Excellent...
I am excited that you have started the same project I did little earlier.
You are making good progress as well. I am also doing the razorback version.
I will try to paint it similar to my red tail p-51 mostly in metallic color so that rivets and lines will really pop in the sun.

Maybe we can maiden both at the same time this coming spring,at list I am shooting for it.
Are you glassing your plane as well?

How did you make your hatch doors? out of balsa or did you lay up some glass?
It is a good idea to get to it right now so that you can glue the hinges from the inside without obstruction.

I really enjoyed your noon's demo. You sure brought your plane down to the deck!!
You have very good flying skills.
I wish I had some of those skills when I got in trouble with my p-51.

Anyway I will look forward to see your progress and to keep in touch maybe even by phone.
PM me your number if you wish and I will exchange with you mine.

Take care

Fabio

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I was thinking about trying liquid sheeting, but I am leaning towards glassing it. I picked up Sierra gear for it and already had a dle 55 sitting around. The doors are balsa I glued a rib in from the back so it would keep the shape of the fuse when I cut it out. I plan on having it ready for finishing by the first of the year.

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I fully agree with you. As a matter of fact, I've NEVER heard "over" or "out" on an aviation frequency in my ("limited") flying experience in the Pacific, Central America, Caribbean, or anywhere in the USA - either civilian or military. Never. I've been logging flight hours since 1976.

This is a model aviation forum. This thread is about the building of the Top Flite P-47. I'm enjoying Redbiscuit's build and have learned a trick or two. I appreciate his sharing his build. That's what this is all about.

I respect your professional flight experience JurassicJet, and the airports you list are testimony to that.I have NO respect for the jackwagon you're debating here. Trust me, you won't win. Its like trying to nail Jello to a tree. This parasite "knows all" through belittling others. Nothing gets through. Look at his reaction to the (movie) clip Airplane that was posted. No (grasp of a) sense of humor, or reality, whatsoever. No pick-up on the cliches that an EXPERIENCED AIRMAN would.None. So, can we please return this thread to the P-47 and leave the chest-thumping (not you) to the insecure wannabe that has SO LITTLEexperience nor expertise at either building this model (or many - as so boasted) or piloting a full-size aircraft? Thank you, sir.<br type="_moz" />

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Thanks for the support EJwash1. I appreciate it.

Ram360........ isn't liquid sheeting usually used for smaller aircraft? I am just asking because I don't know. I would think some 3/4oz glass cloth with resin would be the way to go. A little trick I heard of is to use hairspray to "seal" the wood before you put the glass and resin down. This prevents excess weight build-up due to the resin soaking into the wood.

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redbiscuits,

Just to mention that I have enjoyed your video clip posting in your post #434.

I do not recall ever having seen a captain with all white hair.
Nor a co-pilot with a long beard.
Nor a crew member with two stripes on their sleeve ina cockpit duty.
Nor a captain shoving on the take off throttle in a quick jerky motion.

I also wonder about the camera location taking that video.

It reminds me of the many videos posted that show absolutely unreal situations.

I noted that there is no indication of the source of this clip.

Where did you pick this up ?

Zor

Editing
I see that some other video clips available on that site are showing the same crew in unrealisic situations.
I assume that you posted this video link as a joke and certainly not to prove anything.

It may however have influenced some readers unfamiliar with the full size flying environment.

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I never used it, but don't see any reason why it couldn't be used. But at this point it's going to get glassed
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Zor,

I believe your answer can be found here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11236823/tm.htm Just give it some time to build up steam.
Anyone wishing to carry on debates with you are encouraged to do it in this brand new thread that I have created for you. I'm sure you will have a ball with it, Your Welcome.

As for any questions regarding building a Top Flite Giant P-47 I will try and do my best to answer them here.
Tip, please be serious and have a build manual or PDF of the manual you can refer to before asking. Trust me, it helps in trying to explain things.

Now, I am quite certain that this subject is closed. Affirmative? And by leaving a question mark at the end of Affirmative, I don't require a response from you!!!

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+1

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+2

:)

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I got the cowl primed this afternoon and started to wet sand it.

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yates55,

Very nice for your second post in 4 1/2 years.

If you or any reader reads post #429 you will realize that the diversion was initiated by JurassicJet and NOT by me Zor.

I only responded to JurassicJet and his comment concerning my post.

In fact my previous posting involving the fellow with a big gap at his stabilizer were appreciated by him.
Just go back a bit and read.

redbiscuits,

I do not hold any rancor; I am intelligent enough for that.

Zor

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First wet sanding before applying the panel lines?

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Usually yes...
You apply the chart tape right before you are ready to rivet and paint.
Very little body work you can do when all the details are on the plane.

Where is a good place in the USA to get the 3/4 oz glass in a roll to cover the whole plane, and where is a good place to get masks for the insignia and numbers to be painted on?

Fabio

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I used this place:

http://www.thayercraft.com

Shipped rolled, good prices.

http://www.callie-graphics.com

Callie can make masks to your specs.
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EJ, Yes I have to fill the scratches from sanding the bondo. I was using 80-100 grit to get the job done and that left some pretty course scatches to be filled. As Fabio said once I get the bodywork done I will do the panel lines and such.

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Got it now! Makes sense. I went back several pages and re-read the fuselage panel line posts.

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EJ
there are so many kind and sizes.
Is this the kind I need?
Could you recommend the correct size and length on the chart?

[link]http://www.thayercraft.com/106.htm[/link]

Thanks

Fabio

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I know nothing of Zor's history but in this particular instance the thread diversion was not initiated by him but rather by Mr. JurassicJet. Not being an aviator in the full scale sense I don't know who is right or wrong concerning "over and out" and, to be honest, I don't care. To quote "JJ", "just sayin'". Over and out.

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Fabio,<div></div><div>I ordered 20 yards (44"-wide) of the .73-oz. Silane finish (for any resin) plain weave cloth. The fourth item down from the top on the chart. So far, I've used it to cover a 69" pattern plane with it using Z-Poxy Finishing Resin. The cloth wetted-out very well.</div><div></div><div>I just checked Tower and the Hobbico brand 3/4-ounce cloth is $5.49 for a 36" X 36" (1- sq. yd.) piece. Run the numbers on the cloth from Thayer, and it comes to $1.90 per square yard - with free (U.S.) shipping.Of course now I have to build a LOT of models in order to use-up that much cloth. Or, I could co-op it with other club builders...</div><div></div><div>I also boughtsome 2.4-oz. for wing center section reinforcement.</div>

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Oops! Double post!

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Cowl looks great, not sure I can do as good as you did, may just order the fiber glass one


pics coming soon



yates

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Thanks Chad Veich for having the decency of pointing this out.
I gota blame that I did not deserve at all.

Zor

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Thanks Yates, I enjoyed the challenge of putting those 5 pieces of ABS plastic together. It really wasn't all that bad to tell you the truth. I think it looks more menacing than it actually is. Give it a shot, I'm sure you can do just as good as I did.

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She's going on a field trip to the club for the first time today. I need to get some flying in, it can't be all sanding, filling, and priming. :)

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More progress.....
Before I start gluing the balsa stringers to the bottom of the fuse, is there something I should be doing in your guys opinion before I block access to the inside of the fuse?
Before I go forward I would like to know if you had any retreats after you sheeted the plane and could not get back in there.
Did I make any sense?

Fabio

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I didn't need to get back in there Fabio. I ran the airlines to the tail-wheel retract, put the air-tank in, and I also hooked the line up to the tank and wrapped safety wire around it. I'm sure you already have the push rod tubes in by this point as well.

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Gary
Thanks for the reply
I am ready to sheet the bottom of the fuse.
Before I do that however I need to tackle the inter cooler doors.
The instruction are a bit sketchy.
I am assuming that the flat white piece of plastic in the box is the one I need to use to fabricate the doors.
I am scratching my had to how I can cut the hole accurately on the fuse.
Should I cut out the template from the plan and try to cut it with it?
How did you go about it?

Thanks

Fabio

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Hey Fabio,

Yeah, I understand your pain. The plastic that they provide in the kit in my opinion doesn't give enough margin for error. Everything MUST be cut exactly right the first time or you won't have enough to complete both doors. True to form, I messed up the first cut and I went to Home Depot and bought a handicapped parking sign that was approximately the same thickness as in the kit.
Just follow the plans (side view & top view) and measure everything out. The instruction manual gives you the measurements but the diagram they show is not to scale, so take note of that.
And yes, after I had the bottom sheeted I drew out the opening to be cut and made sure it was the same on both sides.
Hope this helps.

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BTW, I got all my servos out last night (11 to be exact) and started mounting the rubber shock mounts and little brass thing-a-ma-jigs at the breakfast table. My wife was like "where did you get all those, how much are those things each?" I even got sticker shock when I told her.:)
I'm running Airtronics 94162Z's on all the flight controls, a Airtronics 94851 digital on the throttle, a Hitec HS645KB on the tailwheel, a Hitec HS85MG on the air valve, and a Hitec 5485 on the choke.
Good thing I bought all these little-by-little over the last year.

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Rule #1 when talking to the spouse about the hobby.
You ALWAYS had that stuff and if you have to buy it you can get it easily at the Dollar store.

Thanks for the tip about the cooler doors.
I will proceed with caution until I mess up.....he he.

Fabio

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My wife is like a police detective, she will get the facts out of every interrogation! :)

While I'm saving my pennies for the paint, I'm doing little odds and ends that will speed things up later. I have the cowl in position and ready to mount. I was never a big fan of how they designed the cowl mounts to where they can be seen when it is in the position the plans intend. I do think the way they have it set up will keep good airflow exiting the rear of the cowl, it's just not ideally the best looking as far as scale goes. Oh well, life goes on...

BTW, that's an old prop I had laying around, it's not the one I intend to use.

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Gary aren't you ready for rivets ?
For prop I really like the Zoar WWII line. I use it in my p-51 and Trojan and it's very scale like and reasonable at the same time.

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Yes, I'm ready for rivets Fabio. I just want the paint ordered before I start applying them. I don't want to have them on there unsealed with paint and still flipping the fuse around on the stand. I don't want to take a chance messing up the work.

I finished mounting the cowl and cut the openings for the exhaust. The HobbyKing muffler fit on there pretty good without too much modification. It's close to the firewall though!

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You can put some aluminum tape on the firewall to deflect some of the heat.

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I am also slogging thru this build and appreciate the thread. I had a question about finishing the flap area. With the small rib stubs getting in the way, is it possible to glass this area? Or do you paint it and call it good?

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I just primed that area and sanded it smooth. It would almost be impossible to get glass to lay over those ribs without bubbling up in the corners. To me, that would have looked worse than a little wood grain showing through.

Good tip Fabio, I'll give that a shot.

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Trying to get an idea of where everything is going to go. I have A-123 batteries up front next to the fuel tank, I will build a battery tray so I can secure them in there nicely.

They are going to be powering a Spektrum AR12100 Power Safe Receiver. I'm going to have to locate a spot for the choke servo as one will not fit in the supplied servo tray. The choke will also be how I can cut the engine from the transmitter. I'm running out of channels with my TX.

I was originally thinking about a smoke system, but I may wait to get a few flights on her before I add it.

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Has anybody mounted the Sierra retracts in there p47?  Trying to get an idea how to modify the wing for them.

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After getting the bottom sheeting on I couldnt stand not putting it under the fuse, plenty of sanding to do but a very productive day:D