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KaP2011 05-15-2013 05:45 AM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 


I put it in my watch list, may bid on it later, still has 9 days.
Isn't funny how some people say "no reserve" and then start the auction at $XX.XX. To me, that's a reserve price.</p>

rglgatortail 05-15-2013 03:38 PM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
Just grab a number and add it to your signature.

Quote from RCKen in post #1 "We ask that all proudly display their Ultra Sport Brotherhood # in their signature lines. Let's all tell the world about this great plane and bring more into the brotherhood!!!"


Updated Roster

1. Ken Isaac - RCKen
2. Mike Buzzeo - Minnflyer
3. Alex7403
4. Dash008
5. AH1G
6. tschuy
7. MILDBILL-RCU
8. Box car
9. Top Gunn
10. SeaJay
11. Crash Campbell
12. SKYHI1
13. ChuckW
14. RhyanO
15. landeck
16. Ilikebipes
17. airbusdrvr
18. Insanemoondoggie
19. daisy shoot
20. prgonzalez
21. BelAirBob
22. hrrcflyer
23. rastus1
24. tony0707
25. *JCB*
26. Redback
27. bigugly
28. MetallicaJunkie
29. Gordie M
30. Jim_Purcha
31. rcsws
32. jeffsend
33. fireman7875
34. 72
35. ser00
36. Oly
37. cpeisher
38. donzhere
39. SKYHI1
40. kbarko
41. pgilbert
42. rambler53
43. rcjets_63
44. dschroeder
45. Quikturn
46. blueapplepaste
47. green river rc
48. SushiSeeker
49. VCScott
50. FallDownGoBoom
51. ccp10
52. Deadeye
53. Eganwp
54. carlosponti
55. Navy18
56. MineBurg
57. Cdallas2
58. loopyrc
59. Sled
60. Bernard
61. jrbmoto
62. Bubba153
63. Alfredbmor
64. FentonFlyer
65. Sneakywrist
66. BLW
67. smkrcflyer
68. gabarber
69. Amishwarlord
70. JPMacG
71. kamakazie frank
72. RussianFlyer
73. RoyR
74. Red Jeepster
75. Fallingleaf
76. Yukonflier
77. rcjim000
78. goonybird1
79. rglgatortail
80. Latebreaker
81. Tango juliet
82. Saito18
83. hafidy
84. RR24
85. mechdrew
86. siko_flyer
87. Kit
88. n7188u
89. gerryndennis
90. JNorton
91. misterv
92. Mustangman40
93. OntAeronut
94. proptop
95. scottrc
96. scirocco14
97. pt19 flyer
98. Doug47
99. b.bixel
100! bikerbc
101. weezle
102. Mtthwacrss
103. matadco
104. rickbrad
105. GaryHarris
106. Roary m
107. P47Tbolt
108. jp boud
109. arrdee
110. KaP2011
111. HFrank
112. custombuiltrc
113. jquid
114. dasquirrelisme
115. KC10Chief
116. _Tommy D
117. Do328jet
118. sirzepp
119. mrshea
120. AJsToyz
121. svenska3
122. I FLY
123. turnscrew
124. SteveW
125. Super08
126. ma_mulcahy
127. digital_trucker
128. ARTP47
129. us020140
130. Profiled
131. kgibson4
132. r/coldie
133. Tubthumper
134. JH313
135. TWIN FLYER
136. Fliegerboy
137. Doug Robinson
138. thom25
139. Yak13
140. richwill11
141. what tree
142. Ranc68
143. Jimm
144. Calvinman
145. GeeBeer
146. dwreel
147. camss69
148. mattnew

mattnew 05-16-2013 10:49 AM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
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Here is my .60 sized ultrasport I mentioned earlier. It hasn't flown in ~10 years... I've got the radio back in it and am just waiting on delivery of a new motor and hope to be flying it again in a week or so.



My memories of this plane were it took off fast... flew fast.. and landed fast. Never was able to slow it down, that was with a .91 FS in the front. I'm putting a .90 2 stroke in it this time... I imagine my results will be similar :-)

KaP2011 05-16-2013 03:49 PM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
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Yep, I'm thinking the same, maybe even a little faster. I've got a Saito 1.00 in mine and it slows down nice for landing. It's got the Minnflyer flaps but I never use them. I'm thinking you may have had the CG a little to heavy to the nose.

rglgatortail 05-16-2013 05:39 PM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
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You may want to consider on moving the CG all the way back of the range that will help a lot to slow the plane down on landing and you still have a fast plane if you want it to be fast. The picture of the plane that i posted is a Tower Hobbies Kaos 60 which it is a Ultra Sport on the inside anyway I have the CG on the very back end of the range so give it a try and let us know what you got.

mattnew 05-17-2013 07:17 AM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
will do.... with the 4 stroke .91 we had to add tail weight to get the balance into the acceptable range.. so if you were to say "I think your plane was nose heavy" would have me responding... likely! It was a big engine in that long nose. It would snap roll with the engine torque.. wouldn't against the torque at all.. I liked the plane well enough but never truly fell in love with it... this is round 2 with a different motor ( 15GX evolution ) and we'll see how it goes.

It sure was fast to land... I could come in hitting the start of the run way level flight at 2-3' off the ground and cut the engine and completely overshoot the other end... which was at least 600feet long 2 footbal fields ....plane held speed forever.... it was fun in its own way... My father was always in awe that I could land it at all at those speeds...

KaP2011 05-17-2013 09:05 AM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
It is a clean airframe. Add retracts and it gets even faster. Mine does slow down, eventualy. I have to start my landing approach about 1000' out. The performance with the 1.00 is awsome, I just love the way this plane flys. It's my second US 60 and I've had a US 40+ that flew just as nice. This is one of my favorite planes. There are two pattern flyers in my club and both of them love this plane. 

kfla 06-04-2013 11:05 AM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
Guys for what it's worth :D I had to relist it, non paying buyer [>:]

kfla 06-04-2013 11:07 AM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
Here's a link,


http://www.ebay.com/itm/121121578941...84.m1555.l2649

flyalot 06-04-2013 01:54 PM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
My .60 US has a Fitzpatrick .60 in it and is a great flyer. My giant US was built from RCM plans,( before the kit came out) a very enjoyable project, it did have a 1.2 four stroke, in process of putting a Saito 1.5 in it. I also have a .40 a.60 kits in the stack. Joe

KaP2011 06-04-2013 04:10 PM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
Joe, it sounds like you should be #149, you certainly have enough Ultra Sports to be an Ultra Sport lover like the rest of us.

1. Ken Isaac - RCKen
2. Mike Buzzeo - Minnflyer
3. Alex7403
4. Dash008
5. AH1G
6. tschuy
7. MILDBILL-RCU
8. Box car
9. Top Gunn
10. SeaJay
11. Crash Campbell
12. SKYHI1
13. ChuckW
14. RhyanO
15. landeck
16. Ilikebipes
17. airbusdrvr
18. Insanemoondoggie
19. daisy shoot
20. prgonzalez
21. BelAirBob
22. hrrcflyer
23. rastus1
24. tony0707
25. *JCB*
26. Redback
27. bigugly
28. MetallicaJunkie
29. Gordie M
30. Jim_Purcha
31. rcsws
32. jeffsend
33. fireman7875
34. 72
35. ser00
36. Oly
37. cpeisher
38. donzhere
39. SKYHI1
40. kbarko
41. pgilbert
42. rambler53
43. rcjets_63
44. dschroeder
45. Quikturn
46. blueapplepaste
47. green river rc
48. SushiSeeker
49. VCScott
50. FallDownGoBoom
51. ccp10
52. Deadeye
53. Eganwp
54. carlosponti
55. Navy18
56. MineBurg
57. Cdallas2
58. loopyrc
59. Sled
60. Bernard
61. jrbmoto
62. Bubba153
63. Alfredbmor
64. FentonFlyer
65. Sneakywrist
66. BLW
67. smkrcflyer
68. gabarber
69. Amishwarlord
70. JPMacG
71. kamakazie frank
72. RussianFlyer
73. RoyR
74. Red Jeepster
75. Fallingleaf
76. Yukonflier
77. rcjim000
78. goonybird1
79. rglgatortail
80. Latebreaker
81. Tango juliet
82. Saito18
83. hafidy
84. RR24
85. mechdrew
86. siko_flyer
87. Kit
88. n7188u
89. gerryndennis
90. JNorton
91. misterv
92. Mustangman40
93. OntAeronut
94. proptop
95. scottrc
96. scirocco14
97. pt19 flyer
98. Doug47
99. b.bixel
100! bikerbc
101. weezle
102. Mtthwacrss
103. matadco
104. rickbrad
105. GaryHarris
106. Roary m
107. P47Tbolt
108. jp boud
109. arrdee
110. KaP2011
111. HFrank
112. custombuiltrc
113. jquid
114. dasquirrelisme
115. KC10Chief
116. _Tommy D
117. Do328jet
118. sirzepp
119. mrshea
120. AJsToyz
121. svenska3
122. I FLY
123. turnscrew
124. SteveW
125. Super08
126. ma_mulcahy
127. digital_trucker
128. ARTP47
129. us020140
130. Profiled
131. kgibson4
132. r/coldie
133. Tubthumper
134. JH313
135. TWIN FLYER
136. Fliegerboy
137. Doug Robinson
138. thom25
139. Yak13
140. richwill11
141. what tree
142. Ranc68
143. Jimm
144. Calvinman
145. GeeBeer
146. dwreel
147. camss69
148. mattnew

rglgatortail 06-05-2013 06:00 AM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
Kap you need to delete that post you made, the next number that is up is 149 and i have not seen anyone since 148 asking for a number

KaP2011 06-05-2013 01:38 PM

RE: *** Ultra Sport Brotherhood ***
 
Oops, you are correct.

Calvinman 08-22-2013 07:09 AM

Hi Guys,

I am well on my way building my first US40 cloned(doing 2) from the kit I purchased from the LHS and need to start thinking about the canopy. I asked our LHS to order me one in but it never seems to come in.

Is there any handy "jug of wonder juice" that anyone has found that will suffice? Or do I have to make a plug and build a vacuum former?

Some nice looking UltraSports in this thread, I only hope mine will come close. I am going tail dragger with the landing gear all on the fuse, it does cause me to land 3 or 4 times(bounce) but I like the fact that my fuse does not rest on the horizontal stab while in transport.

Calvi

tschuy 08-22-2013 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by KaP2011 (Post 11513628)
Yep, I'm thinking the same, maybe even a little faster. I've got a Saito 1.00 in mine and it slows down nice for landing. It's got the Minnflyer flaps but I never use them. I'm thinking you may have had the CG a little to heavy to the nose.

How is the roll response with the Minnflyer flap modification? I bought an UltraSport 60 kit from Tower and at the same time ordered retracts for it too. I'm tempted to push the canopy back a bit to give it that more of a modern look, but there again the classic look is nice with a good color scheme.

I really wish that the UltraSport 1000 kits were still available...

rglgatortail 08-22-2013 12:06 PM

tschuy, roll response is about the same I guess, when I did the flap mod I also set up a radio mixing so that way I still have full span aileron and then when I flip the switch the flaps come down but I don't know what the aileron response is like without the flap part not working.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Photo0395.jpg

kconn3 08-22-2013 01:05 PM

For the ultra sport 40, use the ultra sport 60 canopy. I have both and you can cut the 60 down to fit the 40. I've done it on mine and another at our field. I bought mine off e-bay.

Calvinman 08-22-2013 01:17 PM

Thanks for the tip Kconn,

Calvi

tschuy 08-22-2013 06:44 PM

Thank you Robert...

Mixing of the flaps with the ailerons would be an option. Just add an addition servo (one servo per flap) and trigger the mixing in the radio... What are the other options to add drag during the approach for landing and keep from having a long flat approach. I've understood that if you work the CG towards the rear of the recommended range it helps to slow the landing approach.

Going with an OS .65 AX with a tuned pipe.

Cheers,

bikerbc 08-23-2013 05:47 AM

I put retracts in my Ultra Sport and I would not do it again.. I have nothing but trouble with them.. They are constantly bending no matter how softly I land.. I am on a rough grass field though...Not real rough.. Just bumpy.. It is a lot of extra work and a lot of extra weight..I am thinking about making another wing without retracts .. The Flaps are fun to play around with ..

Calvinman 08-23-2013 06:07 AM

Yes, I am looking forward to using the flaps I am building into mine, and like you have had bad luck with retracts on a grass field. I do prefer to fly off of grass tough, allot easier on the muffler on the nose overs:(

smkrcflyer 08-23-2013 06:11 AM

I also put retracts in my Ultra Sport and like Bikerbc would not do it again. I have not flown my plane yet but they were just too much work.

RoyR 08-23-2013 12:12 PM

As far as flaps. Before mine crashed due to an elevator servo failure a couple of years ago, (yep, it really wasn't pilot error this time)
I had built my 60 with flaps and retracts. All worked perfectly. I used the Minnflyer retracts, I'm not sure you can get them anymore but they were great.
My first flight, as soon as I got it trimmed out I used the flaps. They add no adverse characteristics to the flight at all that I could tell. I also used full flaps with my first landing.
Of course you Don't need flaps, It flies great without them. But for that added touch they are fun. As far as speed, it is a fast airplane, but landing was no problem. I have a Revolver 60 that lands about twice as fast as the UltraSport did.
I still have a Ultra 60 kit under my work bench. I may get it out and start some day. I'm actually considering putting electric on it.

rglgatortail 08-23-2013 02:11 PM

retracts are not to be used on a grass runway and if they runway in question is not smooth you are going to get bent or ruined retracts and struts.

RoyR 08-23-2013 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by rglgatortail (Post 11598806)
retracts are not to be used on a grass runway and if they runway in question is not smooth you are going to get bent or ruined retracts and struts.

I repeat, I had no problem with my retracts, and I have had more than one plane with retracts. You can't make a blanket statement like that as not everyone experiences the same problems or conditions as you may have experienced. If that were the case then no one would use retracts. It's still a personal preference.
That would be like saying every biplane is going to crash because the one biplane I built, crashed.


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