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Old 05-13-2006, 10:30 PM
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i put the mach 28 and the foc in my truck at the same time and when i went to put the clutch bell on i can't tighten it all the way or it locks on the flywheel i looked at the parts explosion on losi's sight and it looks like i have everythign right. is this normal? i ran the truck and it runs fine but the screw on the clutch bell is about 3/4 of a turn from tight but it doesn't come out

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Old 05-13-2006, 11:22 PM
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

I like to use the stoppers that are in this OFNA parts bag to keep my clutchbell on.

Old 05-14-2006, 12:20 AM
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

in my last race, I had that problem to! if I tighten the screw to much the cluthbell got stuck so I ran it losse and in the middle of the race it came off! what a shame! so what do you reccomend for this problem??
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

i had this problem on my new engine

it turned out to be the little brass collet that the flywheel sits on

the one that came with the new engine was slightly longer than the one of my mach

changed it to the original one off the mach and not the new one and problem solved
Old 05-14-2006, 06:17 AM
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

keep it a little loose so that is spins freely and put loctite on it. No more probs for me.
Old 05-14-2006, 11:04 AM
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

Loctite, In my opinion , when you use loctite on something like this it's like using fixaflat. It's not the right thing to do but if there is no other way...
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ORIGINAL: brax

i had this problem on my new engine

it turned out to be the little brass collet that the flywheel sits on

the one that came with the new engine was slightly longer than the one of my mach

changed it to the original one off the mach and not the new one and problem solved
He got it.....the Stock Collet is Shorter than the One that Comes with the Out of Box Machs....Use the Stock (LST one) and it'll be Fine....
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

wow he's right thanks i have amach 28 so i figured they were the same thanks guys
Old 05-14-2006, 11:32 PM
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

you dont want any slop in your cb. any slop will cause poor mesh and therefore, perfomance problems or breakdowns.
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Old 05-14-2006, 11:37 PM
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

It was the brass collet on my new Picco .28 that caused this same problem.

Replaced with the stock Mach collet, worked like champ.
Old 05-15-2006, 05:12 AM
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The only time you will have slop in the clutch bell(that will affect your mesh) is when your bearings are shot.
Side to side.... I tried shims but they wore down. IMO blue locite..tighten it till it does not spin freely then back it off a hair.
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Use the original brass collet and it will be fixed properly
Old 05-15-2006, 07:34 PM
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OK, I just got back from my LHS and YES, slop in bell is due to bad bearings Mine were shot. Now I purchased the shim kit. The LHS had to modify one of the shims with a dremel. However you just have to play with it, The shims that is. Nothing else to it. ON the down side of this, I plugged in my servo battery pack back words and POOF ,anyone have aJRrs300 receiver for sale? Just when I was ready to run my new truck, what's next???
Old 05-16-2006, 07:17 AM
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No extra receiver but I can sympathize. I've done that and it SUCKS big time. I guarantee you will never do it again.
Old 05-17-2006, 07:52 PM
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Allright, so, my CB on my Mach .28 has some play side to side, like it moves in and out the crankshaft, about 2 to 3 mm, it doesn't seem to affect the truck in any way, but, is this normal? will it damage my clutch shoes? and Also is it normal when the engine is cold, I give it gas and it doesn't go at all, after a min or two, when it warms up, it's fine...
Old 05-17-2006, 11:21 PM
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

I installed an OS 30 VGR engine in my LST and with the stock flywheel I had to use the longer collet to clear the carb.
So here is what I did.
I installed washers behind the collet
Put on the collet and installed the flywheel and tightened down. Put on the clutch shoes.
Now comes the fun part. I couldn't get the shims right. So........
I put on 2 Traxxas teflon shims before the inner bearing.
Put on the clutchbell.
Put 2 bearings on the outside part of clutchbell.
Used OFNA shim kit which has a longer "T" shim.
Used additional teflon shims until I was able to adjust play.
Very little play. Spins freely. Aligns better now with transmission spur gears.
Rockman
Old 05-17-2006, 11:24 PM
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Wow, so the shims don't wear out???
Old 05-18-2006, 06:32 AM
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Default RE: clutch bell to tight

Shims don't wear out.
Bearings do.
Be careful with shims. You only want the shim to touch the inside metal ring of the bearing not inside and outside.
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