<span style="font-size: small"><span style="font-family: Courier New"><span style="font-family: Arial">Hello guys i current new to flying and have just bought 2 prodjects - first 1 is a small sopwith pup , 26inch wing span and i need to no will a OS max 10 engine be ok to put in or a thunder tiger gp-10 be ok or what other would you sudjest?
i also need a prop for the engineso is a 7x4 ok for it and what size spinner do i need and where can i get it from? also need a tank ans servos if you could help.

Second is a pitts special BI plane 44inch wing span and i have just bought a thunder tiger gp-42 engine brand new so i need to no what size prop and spinner to use and where can i get them from if you could help me. also some help on the tank and servo would be great as its just a airframe.

if any 1 can reply would be very greatfull.</span></span></span></p>

I would suggest you put both planes away {they are both nice} until after you get with one of the local clubs and find yourself an instructor. Both of the planes are very advanced and nothing for a first time pilot to be trying to fly. I'm sure there are a few clubs around you there in the UK and most clubs offer flight instruction. There you will learn aircraft set up and you will know or find out what it is you require to get these two planes back into the air. The Pitts is a very advanced stunt plane and not something to learn with. The Pup isn't too much farther behind it. That's the best advise you will get. Don't even bother with them until after you have soloed and have a lot of stick time or you will regret it.

Thomas-Ralph, if you're serious about wanting a lot of replies, ( you asked folks in another thread to come comment here) you'd better be ready for a lot more comments Like Gray Beard's. I'll let you know right now that none of these guys are trying to put you down or hurt your feelings in any way, but we've all seen this very situation repeatedly. I agree fully with Gray Beard. If you try to fly either of these planes, especially by yourself, there can only be one outcome. You will crash and destroy them. Please, get a trainer type plane, find a local club and let them give you some flight instruction. You have two very nice airplanes there. I would hate to see them ruined because of a little lack of patience.

<span style="font-size: x-small">Thank you for the advice - anyparts thatyou would sudjest for them? Andthat is what i am going to do is join a club But also along the way i want to get theseready forflying - Want be flying them intill i get alot of practice and i alsoneed to get a trainer plane to start with-Do you no ofAny good trainer planes to start with?</span>

Most any trainer plane will do the job, but we all have our favorites. I have a lot of stick time on SIG LT-40's. That's been the plane of choice for the youth group I instruct for. I learned to fly on a PT-40, so I'm also partial to that one. If you have a local hobby shop, ask them. They know what they either have or can get quickly, plus they'll usually know what equipment is preferred by the local club instructors. If possible, talk with whoever will be teaching you. That's the best way I know to select equipment.
AS for equiping the biplanes, have you considered doing the pup as an electric? It sounds like a good candidate for it. I don't do electrics, so I know very little about the equipment.
The engine choice for the Pitts sounds about right. You will probably want a 11x6 or a 10x7 prop. Your engine manual should have prop requirements in it. Measure across the opening that the engine shaft will be coming out of the cowl through. That's the size spinner you'll need. Standard size servos should work fine for the Pitts, but you may want to go with smaller (lighter) ones in the pup. Once again, talking to local club members is your best bet. They'll be glad to look and to offer advice.

dredhea and GrayBeard are correct on all counts. I would only add one thing and that would be to go with a .60 size trainer if you can arrange it as they are easier to see and are a bit more stable than their smaller counterparts.

G'day

I learned to fly when I was forty and it took me several years to be reasonably competent. Even now after more than 20 years since I started I am still learning and there are some planes I just would not fly.

As the others have said - you need a good trainer. We don't know how old you are. The older, the slower you will be to learn and the slower and more stable the model you need.

I am a great lover of Sig kits. In particular I love the Sig Kadet Senior. I am currently teaching a 65 year old to fly and even the highly stable Kadet sometimes gets him lost.

So I guess I am saying that if you are 20 or less, anything will do. If you are 30 to 40 then any moderate sized trainer that is not too fast will do. If you are 40 to 50 then a 60 size trainer will help as it will be slower and easier to see (or a Kadet Senior which is also large). If you are over 50 then the Kadet Senior is the one.

Hope this helps a bit.

Cheers from New South Wales.

Mike

Good point, Mike109! I used to prefer smaller trainers, but now (I'm approaching 50) I have a Hobbistar 60 as my personal trainer. It's easier to see and things happen just a little bit slower. That helps when a student panics and shoves the elevator to full down. I know it's instantaneous, but sometimes, it sure seems like it can take forever for that trainer switch to spring back after you let it go!

No reason to buy anything, most clubs or instructors have everything needed to learn to fly. I don't think you should even think about getting these two planes set up until long after solo. By then you will not have to ask anyone what to do or what engines. At the very least you will have a good idea. Just asking such basic questions it's clear you would make a lot of mistakes and want to make costely changes before you fly them. Better to just put them away and cool your jets.I'm a 60 size trainer guy myself. If you have to buy and set one up then in the end you will have a good broken in engine you know and trust for the Pitts.

I couldn't see/read the post very well. Something about a thunder tiger something rather.....

I'll come back when the OP stops typing in green...................What are ya? A 13yr old girl?

thanks guys will keep my eye out for a tidy trainer plane and im 18 so got loads of years to learn
And as for the perosn throwing the abuse why comment if you carnt read the post? - and grow up

Thomas welcome, although I have never flown one of these since it is not marketed here in the US at least under the same name but I would reccomend Seagull Models Boomerang 40 or 60 sized trainers.

They are very popular in the UK and Austrailia and are a fairly genaric type of trainer that are well proven. You might want to research these a bit and with your local club and the folks that will be your new friends and mentors.

http://www.cmfhobbies.com/-SEAGULL-B...-deal/1170.htm

John

thanks thats what i was thinking -  the seagull trainer looks to be worth a try!