Thanks, I wish I would've colored it some before I built it but I wanted to test fly it first.
I think I'll build another one and color it- play around with the canard & wing design
some.
Yeah Tim, give it a try. It is a quick flat build all done with the Hefty Extra Strong & Deep
26cm foam plates.
As for the batteries cooling I don't wait after each flight to charge but I don't fly until
the battery is so low the plane shuts off either. I fly about 5 or 6 minutes until the power
gets sluggish and then recharge.

edit: Had a chance to fly for a couple of hours this afternoon. The Strato is now history.
Full throttle into a fence ah, it was starting to fall to parts anyway. You can only glue
so much.

Finally got a chance to really fly the SingleWing also. That plane is sweet! I may even
begin to like it more than the AA. It's got some power for a little scoot. Had to tape a
penny to the nose but once it's trimmed up right it's a fantastic flyer.

I cut about 2" out of the foam Strato wing and mounted it to the SingleWing
with rubber bands. Wingspan now is 13.8".
Lost the penny and raised the TE. Flys much better. The
turns are a little wider but no more nose dives. At least not like it was.

The winglets made it jump about so they had to be removed. The winglets
worked perfectly on the AA but wreek havok on the SingleWing.... explain
that one micro.

ouch, nice crash! the SingWing is a nice little flyer isnt it? it does have some terrible stall tendencies, and a lot of folks have problems with death spirals, but a light touch on the rudder stick and its not so bad. its more fun to fly than the AA i think, plus the guts are good for a more conventional rudder/throttle setup, and the gearbox in it is a sweet find (the only other 7mm gearbox that can be bought that i've found is 25 dollars!). not bad for a 20 dollar plane.

interesting about the winglets causing problems on the SW. maybe the design of the wing, the dihedral lines specifically, make the differance. could be prop torque too, swinging a single huge 4.75" prop compared to two counter rotating smaller props can make a massive change. did you cut the SW wing off to put the Strato wing on?

nick

For $20 I have no complaints. Not much you can buy today for that price.
I see what you mean now about the prop sizes being different. I think
more than anything that's probably it.
I've had no problems with stalling on the SW after adding some nose weight.
The larger wing solved the death spiral problem and also gave me the nose
weight I needed.
The original SW wings were chopped off completely and some of the top
fuselage was removed.

Hi all, I must agree the SW is a sweet little plane.I have found a new plane while looking thru the paper yesterday and wen't to look at it. I found it in the Bed Bath & Beyond add and you may want to check it out. It's 30 bucks and has twin motors on the front of the wing. I am going to get one but not this weekend for I am in Portland and I don't want to trek it back to OH. Hi Fern, does it ever stop raining here? anyway the plane has nimh and a single stick Tx but for 30 bucks and $5 off or 20% which ever one you can find It's worth a try. I will get one Sunday when I get home. Happy Turkey Day.

LIGHTS FOR SALE $15 shipped.

DJ, you're several hundred miles north of me. That said, it generally starts raining here on November first and rains until march. We are averaging about an inch plus a week. Fortuneatly, Afternoons have been pretty clear. The dark by 5 thing is also unhelpful. Tim

Has anyone thrown aa gear on an e-charger air frame?

I think the plane dj is referencing is the kids galaxy cloud cruiser. Anyone tried one? There is a reference to Letterman flying one on his show at one web site. Tim

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Hey great, & thanks for the promo too!
I just wish I had a better looking model up there. If someone builds a colored
version of it, by all means post that instead.

I've been putting together some other designs using the same airframe build
and just sticking on some differently cut wings, stabs, tails & canards. The AA
is very versatile and forgiving which makes it easy to try out many different
possible designs.

Excellent site Racerx!

Mega-byte, I am building the kid friendly mono plane, pics to follow. The motors I purchased from you are so quiet that I don't believe they are turning enough rpm until I aim the tach at them. If it doesn't rain I'll test fly the plane tomorrow. Tim

And now my tach is being grumpy. Here are the pics. the actual connection to the motor is a 1/2 bit of wire soldered to the motor. then a mechanical connection to the wire that goes to the board, sealed with shrink tube. If I messed up, let me know please, Tim

hey guys I got a areo ace bout a month ago and I want give it more power, what is max voltage that the aero ace electronics can handle, and that wont fry the motors? or do I need to do a motor swap?, It flies ok stock but sometimes it just seems like it would be so much better if it had more power.... and where can I find these?

Tim,

Glad the motors fooled you. I test everything I sell for quality. I have to buy before so I can test and the " doesnt pass my satisfaction test" is very high. Vendors will tell you everything you want to hear. You should see my stock of junk crap. I want to keep quality & fast shipping associated with my name and there's only one way to do it. If I get a flood on a particular item I may run out, but since I've ordered before I can give an expected ship date because the replacement stock has already been ordered when I see the flood coming. I don't list items and then order them as orders come in. Many do though. It does cause me to put alot up front. I won't do "grab bag specials" on the junk either just to unload it. I'm not trying to toot my horn, it's just my policy. If I wouldn't use, why should I sell it to others?
You connections should be ok. Eacj joint should be soldered since if it not electrically "tight" it will cause static to be introduced into the Rx and cause problems. The current draw of those motors is 1/3 of a stock AA so you can add a second motor to each side if needed safely to a stock AA Rx.

sputnixxx,

Here are the facts cold and hard. Others in the thread will confim what I've posted before.
The AA will only work with a single lipo. You can use a higher ma rated one for longer duration flight. If you want bigger or multiple motors with a stock Rx, expect it to fail quickly with the stock output transistors. Many AA Rx' fail with the stock motors. The transistor SilverLit chose is very close to the max on power dissipation. A couple have had success, but it's very slim. I do have a direct replacement Mosfet for the transistors that allows multiple or larger motors. Many in this thread have used them with great success. I spec'd them out very closely with alot of research on direct replacement for ease of installation and durability. Feel free to ask anyone here, I won't be offended by their answers.

Hope this little bit of info is informative to all,

Tony
ARS Software & Innovative Solutions
http://www.falcon1.net/~ars/rcmodels.html

wife found new plane it is from aero ace this planes flys better than expected it will fly way by that hats has been expected when wpins 15 bcks for plane you fly in yard it is better than 300 that yoy fly at local field

All too true! In fact I just fried another RX this last weekend. Stock aa jet motors
just flying the plane in normal conditions and one motor slowed to where she would
tail spin. I swapped the jet motors for a pair of old 05 bipe motors and she flew
with very little power for about 5 minutes until the same side crapped out completely.
That told me for certain I'd blown another RX.
Some last, some don't.... but larger motors with a stock RX is certain death.

Oh, by the way, the RX you did the Mosfet swap on is still going strong! Was just flying
that one the other day.

Glad to hear your wife found the lil gem!

sputnixx, if you are flying a stock ace and want it to fly faster and turn tighter, try the single stir stick mod. If you want a little more stability, and maintain speed, try the double stir stick mod. If you are already flying a mono mod, and want more speed, someone posted a while back that they cut a lot of foam out of the plane and increased the speed. I would not recommend this strategy. Higher speeds cause harder crashes, hard crashes cause dead gear, dead gear cause either no flight, or hunting for a new plane.

Tony, my kid plane won't fly. If you noticed, in the pic's that the wing was shaved I'll repair that this week and try again. It wanted to fly, but the lift wasn't there.

Neuro, mega, gtx, anyone else that understands the specs on the lipos we are using. I'll buy one from the CSRC guy if I know what to buy, test it and report back. I need to know what to buy. Give me direction please.

Final note, I just maidened an ace. It started it's flight life as a single stir stick mono. I also put a born on date on it. These planes are fun to the end, but a new plane.... Well you know or you wouldn't be reading this.

Tim

Your welcome Neurotex, glad you like the site! I would be happy to post a color version when anyone gets a chance to build the Flig. My Flig build has been put on hold as my "building area" has been taken over by Christmas wrapping paper.

Neurotex, that last sketch reminds me of the x-twin turbo fury. Very cool!

Tim, were you looking for the Full River OEM specs on the stock AA Lipo?
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Hi I'm new to RCU. I recently purchesed 2 Aero Aces. Is there more then one freq. Or can the freq. be changed on these? I have read a lot of your conversations. And there are some very interesting planes and custom planes in work. Thats what I like to see.

Thanks

Tim,

I noticed the shaved wing. Does it seem to have adaquate forward speed? If it does, its probably a trimming issue. Even flat 2mm Depron wings will fly if they go forward fast enough. LOL
If the forward speed doesnt seem adaquate, you can safely run 2 or 3 of those motors per side you got from me on a stock AA and still be below the "natural" current draw of a single stock AA motor. I had hoped the micro crowd would dive in on those for LRF's, but.......not so. They are a very nice motor, lightweight and low current draw.
Somethings don't catch on though I guess. I still have a source for them if the demand would ever return.
Another thing on the kid plane. Are the props on right? Its an easy thing to mix up and hard to find since all seems well/

Tony
ARS Software & Innovative Solutions
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I only started hearing about these lower current draw replacement motors yesterday. I think I missed out on something. Where do I get them and how much do they cost? So, they are quieter and have 1/3 to 1/2 the current draw as the stock motors. Does that mean that you are getting 30-45 minute flights on a charge?

My brother got one of these Cloud Cruisers last week...Its been flown 3 times and is pretty cool. The 4 minute flight came isnt correct...we had it up around 6-7 minutes . It flies WAY faster than an AA and definatly has a lot more power (When they say "outdoor use only" on the box they arnt kidding). It handles wind nicely to. We were flying in 5mph gusty wind without much trouble.

My only complaints are the HUGE antena hanging out the back...And the awkward controler...The thumbpad thing is hard to use...would have been much better with just a stick. ...And of course a lipo would have been nice...

Heres a couple more with an AA for size comparison. The second pic show the size difference between props on the aa and the cc.

I saw this one in the bed bath and beyond flyer. How does the plane charge and how long does the charge take?

It comes with its own charging stand. This is nice becasue you arent running down the TX batteries by charging from it. It takes about 8-10 minutes to charge.

What's the variations in throttle speed?
To bad about the funky TX. Why make a plane with more power than the
AA and then skimp on the controls?

That is a long antenna but I bet it has pretty good range.
I wonder if an AA TX could be modified to work with it?

The throttle is set at a constant speed ..by moving the stick you can slow the motors down or speed them up (theres 3 settings Slow-Normal-High). I've found that the neutral setting allows it to climb fairly fast...The slow setting lets it slowly sink. The fast throttle is nearly unused except when the pack gets very low.

The control range is excelent. By the time it goes out of range its to small to see anyway. Because of the strange throttle I dont think an AA tx could be addapted to it...However the TX could be made WAY better by litterally cuting the blulky thumb pad off the top. If that was done it would leave about a 1/2" of stick left. I think I may try that later.

Heres a few more of it on the charger...

The last pic if of the TX...Theres a screw under there that Im hoping will let the giant thumb pad thingy come off with my cutting anything... Problem is there isnt enough room to get a screw driver up in there... I may wing up just bending an old cheap screw driver to get at it.