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Old 12-06-2006 | 10:38 PM
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Old 12-07-2006 | 12:19 AM
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Old 12-07-2006 | 11:37 AM
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ahaacobbler, not sure about the CG yet. if theres too much weight on the tail, or too little weight, i can move the lead jet forward or back to compensate for it. i'm hoping i'll be able to hide all the electronics though, the motors will be mounted to the underside of the jets as well.

neurotex, if it flys *crossing fingers* i'll probably get the urge to do a colored version. if i do go that route, i'll probably scale it up a little bit, it looks to be lacking a lot of wing area at the moment.

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Old 12-07-2006 | 08:42 PM
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Hey Mcneil, I just 3 channeled a TX. Now I have a dim charge light. Any ideas? Tim
Old 12-08-2006 | 04:46 PM
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GP, they are just new aa jets. black and red. I'm not impressed with the jets and recieved them by mistake. Which reminds me that I need to call tru. Oh, joy. I have had 1(one) jet that flew well in my fly zone. out of 4 jets. If you are flying in the right area the jet model should be great. But I wonder how many hand catches have been done with the jet?

Tim
mine has had infinite until one motor has now gone weak. some guy over on RCG said to run it completely submerged in rubbing alcohol do you think that is a viable option? he says it removes stuff from the brushes or whatever inside.
Old 12-08-2006 | 09:00 PM
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GP, isopryl alcohol, or rubbing alcohol, has a relatively low flash point. And I would guess some cleaning properties. I would be worried about a flash fire, and removing whatever oil is used to lubricate the motor. When I was a kid I had a chemistry set that used isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol for the fuel in the burner. There is a contact cleaner that is sprayed from a can. I would check with RS for that first. You might try hosing down the motor with that product, then use some canned air for computer clean up next. Then you would need to relube the motor. Have you checked the voltage to the motor? If the voltage is low it could be the RX.
Old 12-08-2006 | 09:32 PM
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Hi All, different subject entirely. I have what could be a major storm right off the coast from me. The barometer has dopped almost 1/2". 30.01 to 29.55, in 24 hours. When I could fly, the plane flew more acrobatic than yesterday. So my questions are, has anyone else noted changes in flight profiles in front of storms? Second question, does air temp bother your planes, the colder the air the less power you have? BTW, I now get the surfer guys that go out in front of a storm. Flying in the pre storm environment was a blast. I do want to caution newer fliers, this is a great way to lose an airplane. I came close 4-5 time this afternoon, and I only flew two planes. That would be less than 20 minutes of flight. Both planes were stir stick mods, one single, one double. A stock plane or a standard monomod would possibly been blown away. If you go and mod your plane tonight for wierd wind tomorrow, you'll probably lose it tomorrow. Mod the plane, learn to fly it in normal conditions, learn to fly it in moderately challenging conditions, then try flying in weird conditions.

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Old 12-10-2006 | 05:01 PM
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my jet motor replacement was a success! it works great now, a little added weight on that side but i compensated by bendin the tail a bit.
Old 12-12-2006 | 09:25 PM
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I'm am going to buy one is there anything i should know first
Old 12-14-2006 | 11:17 PM
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chickenboo, plan on buying more planes. They seem to be a little addictictive.

Here is a new airplane recovery story, we haven't had ant recently. I was trying to to fly the double stir stick with a tail in the wind conditions in my yard. I decided the the wind was to swirly for flight. Instead of just ditching the plane immediately, I figured that since I had a tail streamer on it I could fly it back. Then the wind caught the plane. Remember, this a stir stick plane. I fought it close to the house and it caught the wind stopped by the house. The plane the took a hard turn and climb off the turbulence. Shortly thereafter it landed on the wrong side of a fence, in hibernating nettles. I pulled out my trusty tree trimming rig, catch it softly in the jaws and bring it home. The plane is obviosly to far for that, had I thought about it I would have known that fate would make this more challenging. I used my trimming tool to clear an area that was large enough to recover the plane. Once I everything clear, I went for the big reach. The tree trimmer is 13' long, the airplane is 14' away. I went to get the 6' ladder, it was in use on christmas stuff. A chair later, I recovered the plane. Tim
Old 12-15-2006 | 12:43 PM
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It tunrs out that CA is not always safe on an aero ace. I have always used CA glue for small repairs on the AA, but last night I found out that, although it will not damage the main body of the plane, it does disolve the vertical sabilizers on the AA jet. Just an FYI.
Old 12-16-2006 | 03:24 PM
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New to the AAjet. Never did like the idea of a pin or nail, etc in the nose for weight to keep it from thinking its a surfacing submarine on emergency blow... (sounds cooler than Porpouising) So i taped a small thin washer to it with some packing tape (pretty tough stuff) and it cures the plane from pulling a Maverick airbrake move.



As you can see the washer isn't much wider than the black charger/switch block on the bottom of the plane. WIth this weight rig if it does auger in it doesn't have a chance at pericing the moody LiPo battery.
Old 12-16-2006 | 05:24 PM
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Hi all. I saw the commercial for the Storm Launcher this morning, on discovery/times channel. I went to the website and was impressed. Much more professional presentation. So I then went to the airhogs site. Guess what is NOT listed........ There is no mention of the aero ace bipe. The image for the aero ace is the jet. I can't believe they are going to pull the airplane that flies the best, but who knows.

Also, I ran into a guy here in town that is willing to do the mosfet mod. The price will depend on the number of pieces he's doing.

Tim

I guess someone read this post, I just tried to get into the spinmaster sites, and they seem to be jammed,. I'll try again later Tim
Old 12-16-2006 | 09:03 PM
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I found an answer to the barometric pressure question. A normal aircraft needs thicker air for the fuel/air mixture. Since the aces are electric the thinner air allows for faster, more responsive flight.

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Old 12-17-2006 | 12:20 AM
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To a point i agree, however to thin and it loses flight ability without additional speed (talking real airplanes here) due to not enough air to put lift on the wings. since the AA's will never get that high its not an issue for them. and as such a half inch change in pressure will have almost zero effect on an AA.
Old 12-17-2006 | 12:50 AM
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Nova, not to sound to geeky, but when the pressure is in the 30.15ish range the plane flies differently than when the pressure is down in the 29.85ish range. I thought I was making it up until I was able to repeat the performance. The theoretical normal pressure is 29.95. That is fairly accurate for where I live. However, I can turn and stunt better with lower pressures. With higher pressures I can make serious altitude.

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Old 12-17-2006 | 08:18 AM
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You will understand if i doubt you until i see it happen to me? and BTW.. you failed at not sounding geeky....
Old 12-17-2006 | 01:26 PM
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I never thought about it happining to model planes...but I know for a fact it affects full scale planes. Since the air is thinner at lower pressure, to produce the same amount of lift a plane must travel faster. Planes fly faster when the air is thinner because theres less molecules hitting the plane. The less friction... the less drag. As minor as it sounds it actually makes a big difference.

An example of this is the change in pressure at altitude. For instance, someplace where the air is thick, like say...Death Valley A plane may need a 300ft take off run. However at high altitude in Colorado where the air is thin the same plane may need 500ft to get airborn.

Im sick with a 100+ fever as I'm writing this...hope it makes sense.....
Old 12-17-2006 | 03:50 PM
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Not sure what effect preasure has on smaller planes but there are some
days when my planes seem to fly better than others.

I purchased the Cloud Cruiser and took it out for some test flights. I had
trouble keeping it airborn. The motors are very noisey (hence the 6 capacitors?)
but the plane is quick. Turns out of the wind results in serious altitude loss.
Best to get this weighty plane as high as possible launching it into the wind
before making that first turn. The one stick control too takes some getting
used to.

I chopped the wings and added a s&t wing hoping that will help. Waiting for
a good day to try it out.
The motors are slightly larger than the N20s and do provide the power.
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Old 12-17-2006 | 05:17 PM
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A different finding on baro pressure. All of my piccos were not as controlable last night. supposed to get a high pressure later and see how that affects the helis. Whenever anyone says not to sound _______ but, they do anyway

Tim
Old 12-17-2006 | 08:47 PM
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Nova5, and everyone else, I mentioned in the first post that these were stir stick mods(single and double). While the effects should be felt by all the planes, the stir sticks would be more affected. The stir stick mods are more manueverable(sp?) and more affected by change. This is by design. The goal of the stirstick mods is to lose as little energy as possible. BTW, high pressure today, plenty of altitude but no flip turns. Lower speeds as well. I did have enough wind early to require a short tail.

Tim
Old 12-17-2006 | 09:03 PM
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stirstik?
Old 12-17-2006 | 11:05 PM
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I had trouble keeping it airborn.
Strange that yours didnt fly well...Mine was great right out of the box.
Old 12-17-2006 | 11:34 PM
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Nova5, I set up my planes to use as much of the energy created as possible. After a lot of mods I came up with the stir stick mods. Once the weather gets better I'll apply the past mods to the stir stick plane to tune it better. I wrote up the stir stick mods for the aero ace mods thread. Please check there.

Tim
Old 12-18-2006 | 08:56 AM
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Has anyone else observed this problem?

I keep my AA's in an unheated garage. Here in northern CA it has become seasonably stormy (i.e. humid and around 55 degrees) or clear and cold (i.e. 25 degrees as low).

Well my garage kept AAs stopped working. One is a stock bipe with 5 flights on it. The other is a balsa and tissue slow fly project, where the only electric mod is to extend the motor wires. Both B channels. The charger batteries test to 1.5 volts. Both fully charged.

So has anyone else had problems with long term storage in unheated spaces?

KL


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