OK, I put a 30 amp Dynam ESC on the CP and it seems like it is doing fine without it. I'll leave it off for now unless something changes. Thanks

I don't know about you guys but these videos have helped tremendously. http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692&page=7

Wee bot, the King2 is a 300 size heli. The Belt CP is a 450 size. I fly a HBK2 and my uncle (flyingmaniac) fly the Belt. For more specific specs check out an online retailer like www.rchelicoptershop.com or www.helidirect.com. Either one will be a great flyer.

Thanks.
I am still picking up the names of all the parts so maybe it is the pinion. The cap screw that goes through the bottom of the main gear was missing. I just ordered a new main gear with the hardware.

Hi all,

Question regarding mods and upgrdes, has anyone tried replacing stock ESky stock servos with other servos on their Belt CP or HBK2? It looks to me like their frames are designed to take only stock ESky servos (with the exception of the tail servo). The design of the frame looks to me that way.

In my opinion, as long as CL-CL of the mounts on the servos are the same, it should fit, but I've never tried before. Any input is much appreciated. Many thanks.

Looking for a PDF of the Belt-CP manual. I left my hardcopy at the office and won't be back there until Tuesday.

Hey everyone..... I just purchased an E-Sky Belt CP and I love it except for the fact that it will only fly for about 2 minutes!!
I know.....there are probably a number of questions that you want to ask but before you do let me say this:
1. I know how to take care of batteries. I don't charge it longer than 2 hours. I take it off of charge as soon soon as the green light turns steady. I completely drain the battery before re-charging it
2. This was an RTF kit so there wasn't anything to do other than route the antenna and charge the battery. Therefore, I'm assuming that little things like making sure the ESC and the receiver aren't close to each other. etc, etc. don't need to be changed because that's how it came from the factory.
3. It flies great and then all of a sudden the motor rapidly loses power. I can save the landing but just barely. It drops rather quickly.
4. The ESC and the motor are warm but no where even close to HOT
5. If I let it sit for about two or three minutes I can fly it again but only for about 30 seconds and then the problem occurs again.

Here is my problem: I cannot get a hold of the company that I bought it from. They are horrible at customer service. I have called 10 times and left three emails. No one will get back to me. Today i decided to just email TWF (the manufacturer) and ask them for help. Of course, they are in China so we will see what happens. I know it could be a number of things but I don't want to go spending money just to troubleshoot something that could be minor. Also, I don't think it's the battery because everything except for adequate power is working just fine. all the servos and everything work great and the battery is not hot. Does anyone have any input? I would greatly appreciate it.

First check the volt of the batt with tester it looks discharge. if is below 11.2v theres your problem. when you can get another lipo batt is good for test.
For the servo replacements Hitec hs-55 on cyclic fit with small mod.

I completely drain the battery before re-charging it
You should never completely discharge a lipo battery, thats what I have been told.

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Completely draining a LiPo kills it. What's happening now, basically, is that the battery can no longer deliver power fast enough. Think of it as killing the "C" rating of the pack, or running on a 4C pack. It quits when it can't keep up with demand. When you let is sit a while, it recovers a little. I'd also be surprised if it's charging much now.

You may be able to save the battery, but it's a long shot. Try leaving it on the charger for a few hours. Just keep checking it to make sure the pack and the charger don't get hot. The charger will keep trying to "top it off" every few minutes or so, and eventually you may get the charge back. We've done it before, but never tried it on cells that have been completely drained.
I don't believe the new stock Esky charger has an actual balancing circuit (lots of balancing chargers don't), but it does charge the cells individually.

Thanks. But that one seems to be screwed up It starts with the cover page then pages 1 through 11 then the cover page again then pages 1 through 9 then page 11 then page 24 and then the back page. Many pages are missing.

I had to replace the gear set that drives the tail rotor and I need to reconnect the servos to the reciever. I remember the original manual had a clear set of diagrams covering this.

I found one here that seems to be complete. Page 12 is the page I was looking for
http://www.twf-sz.com/english/download.asp?page=2

Hi,
This my first time to post in this thread, I have read all the previous posts and want to say thanks for all the valuable information that I have gotten here. I have been building up a Belt CP very slowly due to the fact that I am still working with my Falcon 40 FP to get my hovering down real good (it is comming along great) I am about to take the next step and take out the Belt. I have checked and rechecked all adjestments, Balanced and adj. the blade tracking. I spooled it up to 100% thtottle (no vibrations) so I think I am about ready to go.

I do have one problem that I can see. I can't seem to get the brake on the ESC to disengage. I have tried following the procedures outlined in a post in this thread and the steps listed in the ESC spec. sheet but no joy. I have tried setting the throttle trim from one end to the other and still no go. I also tried setting different parameters in the Tx. (Futaba 7C) and no luck there either. I NEED HELP!!!

Any suggestions that anyone might have will be greatly appreciated, Thanks!!
Dan

Dan, do you have the stock Tx, or just the Futaba?

Hi Gary

I just have the Futaba!

Hi,
Trying to setup a Futaba 9C with my Belt-CP. The elevator / Throttle-pitch controls are switched. The throttle operates the elevator and the elevator operates the pitch. I'm new to programable radios as you can tell and have read what I can find but can't figure this out.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Are your servos in the right spot? Start with servo reversing and make sure each servos are moving the right way indivually. Then check if all the servos are moving together the correct way with the swash mix. For example if ailerons are backward change a positive value to a negative or a negative to a positive.

Well so much for the new hh gyro, didn't make me a better pilot, hehe the training gear snapped and went up into the blades... what can you do, huh?....

regardless of what servos are reversed your throttle should move all three servos. if it's not then you've got the servos plugged into the wrong spots on the receiver. If you can wait until to night I can tell you exactly which servo goes where on the futaba receiver. send me a pm to remind me.

Looks like a good time to upgrade to the cnc head.

I should have asked if you were using the Esky 25A ESC, but since you only asked about the brakes, I'll assume you are.

The Esky ESC needs absolute 0% and 100% throttle settings in order to program it. I gave up trying to do it with my Hitec Eclipse 7 Tx and just did it with the stock Tx, but even then I had to move the throttle trim and lever to get it to work. If you have a cheap, RTF type Tx (not programmable), you might want to try it. Don't bother with the Falcon 40 Tx, though, as it's not likely to be compatible (wrong protocol). This doesn't mean it can't be done with your Futaba, it just means it might be more work. I think you'll have to go into the programming and set anything that has to do with throttle to 0. This includes Sub-Trim and Throttle Cut (if you have it), and anything else. You may even have to set the pitch & throttle curves to make sure you're starting at 0, and even Revolution Mixing (if you're using it) and R-T (Rudder - Throttle mixing). I don't know for sure how far you have to go, but you may as well do them all and be sure. (Well, actually, skip to the next part first. If it doesn't work, then do all the above stuff.)
Then... you might have to play with the throttle trim (by the throttle stick). Assuming this trim is electronic, it's going to be hard to move the throttle trim fast from 100% to -100%, so turn on your Tx and put the trim at about 25%. Plug in your heli. When you get the beeps on the ESC (actually, the motor beeps, not the ESC), quickly move the throttle to 0 and the trim to as low as you can before the beeping stops. Hopefully, you'll get the correct confirmation beeps. If not, you'll have to play around with your trim setting, starting it higher or lower. I don't think there's any way of knowing whether the ESC is not getting the Full or Zero it needs, but my guess is that the Zero isn't registering (just a guess). You may end up having to go back into the programming and setting the Throttle Cut to -30 or something. I don't even remember if T.C. does anything with electric helis, but you gotta try everything.

So, you've probably tried all this stuff anyway, so all you can do is keep at it. I've been told that it can be done (ESC isn't "tied into" the stock Tx in any way).
Good luck.

Hi, if you read the review of the HBK2 (RCU user reviews/find & review prodects) the editor acctually replaced the stock Esky servos with Hitec HS-55's adding that he said it flew great with them. My HBK2 still has the stock Esky servos, however my uncle flys his Belt CP with Hitec HS-55's. Just remember the Hitec like Spectrum servos operate backwards from the stock Esky's so you'll have to reverse them in order for the cyclic and collective to operate right. Good luck.

Hmmm that looks familiar solie......
lol

must be an epidemic crashinbash! i just did the same thing to my main rotor head this morning. all of it could have been avoided. my heli has been glitching badly lately but i had the itch to fly before going to work. today seemed to be the worse and my heli was all over the place. so instead of setting her down, i just decided to run the whole battery. halfway through the pack, my belt hit some tree branches. so now that im looking at a pile of parts on the kitchen, i decided to check into the glitching. i did everything and rearranged esc, ferrit ring, main power wires away from antenna wire, unspooling antenna wire and got nothing but glitches. i flicked the receiver, plugged and unplugged the servo wires and made sure they were snug. still glitching heavily. finally, i opened up the tx and wd40'd the contacts in the right stick (it was only glitching in right stick), closed it up, and turned everything on. the glitching completely vanished! if i had only been patient in trying to get rid of the glitching rather than antsy to fly, it would have saved me some bucks. but at least i get to check out how she flies with the new align pro 315 blades when they come in the mail. it just sucks that it had to happen before the weekend started.

Got Glitch? i would think with all these moving parts, helis would be just begging for it.