I wish the Vendetta ST would have been out before I started hopping up my MLST.

Yea, it seems like a good truck. I really wanted the buggy version, but then I was talkin to my friend and for the same price, the st has a few more goodies than the buggy; pillow ball suspension, VR3 motor, wider stnace and bigger tires. I might get the buggy body and wheels and make it into a buggy when i get it. What brushed motors do you recomend? how would the mini-t hop-up motor work in it?

And I still have my tc3 wheels/slicks so i will be able to drive on the road without messin up the stock dirt tires!!!

1 mini t motors- 280 size
2 detta motors- 380-400 size

the mini t motors are too small same with the mamba and cobalt
the stocker will hold up fine
i would suggest going brushless instead of a different
brushed motor

1 ammo 2835 3900 (54$)
2 ammo 3835 5100 (32$)
2 permax 4d 3.2mm shaft (50 something idk)

mamba (80)
quark (85)

the smaller motors wont have enough to move the big wheels and if they do they will burn out most probably

Get the Detta ST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Raminator is just a stripped down version of the MLST.

on that note, asus eeepc
should be out soon. umpc with upgradable memory. Will satisfy your laptop duties, cept for gaming. $200-$300 leaving dough for the RC!!

hmmmm idk. i have mny mine set on a detta now, so will see. thanks.

Will thsi brushless combo work? http://www.starluckrc.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=177

Feigao 280-21s motor with mamba 26 esc: $105...

I think the Raminator is a down graded mini lst.

If you are going to get the Detta. Go with this motor Permax 400/4D http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNGX5&P=7
and then use the Quark Pro Car 33 ESC.

I had a prophet plus and it charged my mini batterys fine. I know use a Vision 2 peak charger by dynamite and it works great.

You hit the nail on the head. That is all it is a stripped down MLST.

Actually, someon just helped me find a great deal on one. heres the link: http://b-p-p.com/proddetail.php?prod=de_YC22L


I will use the hyperion 500 and quark esc. Just wondering, why do you recomend the quark esc?

the quark is sort of the same thing as the mamba with the castle link
also it can handle a 33a constant so if you use a crazy motor lol

its 20 bucks less than mamba wit castle
i dont know about that motor
i think the ammo or the permax are your best bet
i pmed you

also check this thread and contact jae
tire ....http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6000527/tm.htm
motor...http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5643067/tm.htm

hope i could help

It can handle more current, and is a smoother controller.

I wouldn't reccomend that motor. Its prone to overheating and I know of a few people who have had the end caps fall out on them. I used to own the 5000kv long can in my mini quake. I got rid of it after less than two months. The ammo or permax are much better motors. If you go feigao, you want the 380-8408S from starluck. My choice right now would be the Ammo 28-35-5100. They are on sale for $32.00 at Tower. You can't beat that deal.

yup
mamba... 25 amp constant ... 50 surge
quark33... 33ampconstant... 50 surge


i got this from a diff forum
not mine

also i think it has more setup thingees lol

here what i mean...
Size and weight.

Mamba 25

Width 23MM x Height 9MM x Length 45MM.
Weight 35 Grams.

Quark Pro Car 33

Width 25MM x Height 6MM x Length 39MM.
Weight 24 Grams without wires, same as Mamba with wires?

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Amps, Burst, Resistance, Batteries.

Mamba 25

Up to 25 Amps continuous, 50 Amps burst.
Resistance .0022 ohms.
Batteries 4-12 Cells, 2-3 Cells Lipo.

Quark Pro Car 33

Up to 33 Amps continuous, 50 Amps burst.
Resistance .0025 ohms.
Batteries 5-15 Cells, 2-5 Cells Lipo.

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Features, Settings.

Mamba 25 Manual Setup

Brake-Reverse Type
Reverse Throttle Amount-Strength
Cutoff Voltage
Timing Advance
Starting Power


Mamba 25 Castle Link

Brake-Reverse type
Brake Amount
Reverse Throttle
Punch Control
Drag Brake
Start Power
Motor Timing
Cutoff Voltage
Throttle Curve
Brake Curve

Quark Pro Car 33 Manual Setup

Max-Minimum Radio Throttle
Brake-Reverse
Brake Strength
Drag Break Amount
Battery Selection
Lipo Cutoff
Motor Type
Drag Brake on-off
Race-Safe Mode
Noise Cancellation on-off
Torque Selection
Neutral Range Selection
Delayed Brake-Reverse Time Selection

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These are the basic technical differences between the 2.

Prices are $76.95 Mamba $88.90 with link Mamba, $79.95 Quark at BPP.

Add $21.95 for the castle link for the Mamba.


I have ran both extensively and I do think the Quark is smoother, more responsive, more programmable.

The mamba is nice because of the USB ability, the link is expensive though.

Technically the Quark is much higher specs, it has a heatsink, and is cheaper than the Mamba with USB.

AGREED!!!!

ammo and permax are your best bet for...
1 fast but controllable speeds
2 very hi torque
3 raceable
4 bashable lol

Ah ha!! http://b-p-p.com/proddetail.php?prod=dz_permax400

yeah, that's a good price too. Ask Troy for a 3.2mm shaft model. you'll have an easier time finding pinions.

Who is Troy, if you dont mind me asking?

he works for bpp.. he has helped me out on occassion aswell..

Oh ok, thanks!