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Old 12-25-2007 | 08:56 PM
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If Money was no object, and I can tear down, modify, and fly the cx-2 almost blindfolded, and have a DX-7 coming?

I do want to save money by not getting anything in between (with all the mods, and parts stock, etc.) if the T-REX is upmost in ease, stability, and so on. I know crashes will cost more though.

Which size of T-REX would You recommend. Is going from a co-axial to a CP heli too big a leap for most people?
I'm not a gifted pilot or anything; just have alot of experience with the CX-2'S

Thanks in advance.

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Old 12-25-2007 | 09:55 PM
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spend 100 bucks and get a HBFP with sperskids and practice that and a sim and then it will make the transition easier.

theres not much thats simular between coax and cp heli. it can be done but you spend more in parts then you would buying and tearing up a honeybee fp.
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If Money was no object, and I can tear down, modify, and fly the cx-2 almost blindfolded, and have a DX-7 coming?

I do want to save money by not getting anything in between (with all the mods, and parts stock, etc.) if the T-REX is upmost in ease, stability, and so on. I know crashes will cost more though.

Which size of T-REX would You recommend. Is going from a co-axial to a CP heli too big a leap for most people?
I'm not a gifted pilot or anything; just have alot of experience with the CX-2'S

Thanks in advance.

Gary
Don't listen to the "clone" supporters. Seriously, get a TREX SE V2.

You won't be sorry.

Lots of support here and on other forums...

I started out with the CX2 and went to a V2 after that. I love them both for different reasons.
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T-Rex 450 is a great flyer the new T-Rex 500 is bigger more stable maybe a better trainer .. alot has to do with what you can afford the bigger a rotor is the ezer its to fly being more stable ,,, personaly I think the T-Rex 600E is to big for electric i would go nitro at that size 600N

Like BRY said no clones go T-REx 450se V2 or my chose T-Rex 500CF
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Well..... get a 600N since if your planning to go from CX2 --> 450 --> 600 then your basically going to lose some money investing on the 450 so i think you should get a 600N
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Thanks for the replies, Guys. I really appreciate it.

Bry! Nice to see You here.

How hard was the transition, as I have no local clubs, LHS, etc. to benefit Me. All I know, I know from this forum. I guess the response has proven that once again, I can rely on You guys.

I just don't want to get frustrated with the set up, as I know nothing about the T-REX, and I don't want to be a bother.

The HBFP was on the top of My list, and wanted input on the T-REX.

I think it's not if, but when I get a T-REX.

I don't want umpteen helis working up to the T-REX, but I'm starting to think that if I do have a 'go between' the HBFP would be a good springboard.

I'm just getting kinda bored with the CX-2'S. I'll never get rid of them, just want to move on.

I'm eating My words as a few Months ago, I said I never would.

Never say Never.

Gary
Old 12-25-2007 | 11:13 PM
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spend 100 bucks and get a HBFP with sperskids and practice that and a sim and then it will make the transition easier.

theres not much thats simular between coax and cp heli. it can be done but you spend more in parts then you would buying and tearing up a honeybee fp.

Which Sim is the best for the HBFP and the T-REX?
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Gary--

If Brian (Bry) can do it, you can too...! Knowing you, I personally think you would be fine. Your skills, mechanical ability, logic, and patience will be on your side also. You saw me flying the CPP...It took 8 months to get to that point...Lol..If I would have just skipped to the phase of the Trex sooner, I would've been flying sooner. No sim experience here, but sure would've been a big help, and still would be...(Can't wait to get one). As a business owner that you are, and what you do, I don't have to tell you about how important it is about having something of quality and which has already proven itself over and over. Although my Trex is still new and currently working on more understanding and set-up of the heli, I couldn't begin to tell you how much I'am pleased with it and how it performs.

The parts/upgrades are readily available on most of the web-sites, and the LHS's. Hek, If ya can't decide, and money is no object.....How bout one of each ?!

Be interesting to see which way you sway...Me and Brian are here ! You coming ?!?!

Take care,


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I have not 1 min of Sim time ,,,,, i will never say a sim is no good it is for practice new moves ,,,, the real thing is really not that hard if you go slow and THINK ...... also i learned on a 40-60 Nitros in the 80s so I will always like Bigger rotors ,,,, Size Dose Matter LOL [:-]
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Gary, I actually learnt to fly with an SE V2 in August. I wanted a 600 then so I got a CX2 for the other half to sort of pacify her. I found flying that a doddle so it can be done the other way round. The 450 is great to fly and when you can fly that you will find the 600 absolutely awesome, much more stable that a 450 especially in the wind.
The t-rex 450 SEV2 is a beautifull helli to fly, just take it step by step, you will love one! Gary.
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we all not its not a matter of when you will wreck or how many times you'll dump it its a matter of frustration and money.

theres not much of a debate weather a sim is good or not we all know they work great and for learning it will really save you some cash.

when i first started 6 weeks ago i read here and thought i could do it without a sim or a HBFP jumped rite into a 450 and stayed in a holding pattern for parts for a month. now with a sim im getting much better faster without dumping my heli. i even went and bought the HBFP put superstruts on her and im having a blast with that heli too. ive wrecked it 50 times last week. if that would have been my 450 i could have bought a new one with the parts list lol.

anyway 6 weeks into it im just now hovering without hurting anything and to me a sim is a must have.

heres a free sim that is great allot better then fms, youll need the HBFP TX and a $10 usb sim cable to get it to work. people at helifreak love this sim and with this i wont buy realflight g4 i like it allot www.marksfiles.net
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ORIGINAL: goldslinger

Thanks for the replies, Guys. I really appreciate it.

Bry! Nice to see You here.

How hard was the transition, as I have no local clubs, LHS, etc. to benefit Me. All I know, I know from this forum. I guess the response has proven that once again, I can rely on You guys.

I just don't want to get frustrated with the set up, as I know nothing about the T-REX, and I don't want to be a bother.

The HBFP was on the top of My list, and wanted input on the T-REX.

I think it's not if, but when I get a T-REX.

I don't want umpteen helis working up to the T-REX, but I'm starting to think that if I do have a 'go between' the HBFP would be a good springboard.

I'm just getting kinda bored with the CX-2'S. I'll never get rid of them, just want to move on.

I'm eating My words as a few Months ago, I said I never would.

Never say Never.

Gary
Hi there, buddy! Yeah, I am pretty active here in the TREX forums both here and at HeliFreak as well as still maintaining my interestes in the CX2.

The TREX is a dream to set up. The manual will leave you wanting, but there are so many good resources both here and on other forums, that you will feel JUST FINE about your build. Your first step is to actually order the lit and the electronics. Second, download and watch EVERY single one of Finless' TREX 450 SE setup videos. Third, find a coach / mentor to help you theough it. Someone local would be best, but there are plenty of people around here that will help you via posts, direct e-mails, IM, and phone conversations! [8D]

I did all of my setup with the help of two very nice individuals. The first one kind of took me through the mecahical setup and the second was there for the electronics.

The V2 kit is great, but it DOES force you to assemble most of the Heli by yourself. The only assembled components are the upp frame, lower frame, head and tail assemblies. The rest is up to you! I personally liked having to do this, as I am no longer scared of tearing apart my Heli when I crash!

Simulator: GET ONE. I am running RF G3.5 and there is an AWESOME, FREE TREX SE V2 model you can download. If you are a swhred shopper, you can pick up RF G3.5 for a bargain here at RCU, as RF just released their new version.

HTH

Bryan
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As for me I started with the Lama V4 for 2 months and since august I have been flying the Honey Bee King2 up to 130 flights now and I really enjoy it.
Today I took out my King2 and T-Rex 450 SE V2 , hovered the T-Rex for 8 min but this was not just a steady hover I was going side to side front back just to get a feel for it. Then flew the King 2 circuit flights on skis since its snow big time here now, well it flew very nice as usuall.
Now came the time for the T-Rex in circuits, yes I was extreamly nervous I guess I didn't want to crash it on the first flight.
Well let me tell you I think I would of learned faster on the T-Rex, that heli is amazingly stable, I simply love it

Now I'm more encourage to work on my scale Bell 222 for it.


So my vote is for the T-Rex 450 SE V2 100%

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Wow ! !

The responses here are beyond anything I could have imagined. I'm deeply touched. Thanks, tons, guys!

I'm all in for the T-REX! As some know, I really like to tinker and work with my hands, and not afraid of learning.
My only apprehension was having a source for learning, but that worry is officially DEAD! !

Man, I'm excited now ! ! I know there will be frustration, but earning my PPL license in a Cessna 172 was probably the most challenging and frustrating thing I could have done, and I'm as tenacious as can be. I stick to things like glue!

I want to build one as I'm gonna have to tear down and rebuild one on the learning curve; that's a given.

I would like to get everything I need and want the best, gyro, brushless motor, etc.

Can someone tell Me what their dream 450sev2 would be and a source for the stuff (hopefully most, if not all in one place)?

This would be for quality, and not necessarily for 3-d. I really want to do it right the first time.

My plan is to get the Sim. (thanks Brian) work on that while building the heli this Winter. Then Spring into action this 'Spring.'

Thanks, again.

Gary
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I forgot to mention that I will be using a DX-7 Radio. I got the microlite setup; can I use those servos?

Also, I guess I need a swashplate leveler, so on and so on. . . $

Gary
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PaulG-RC

Nice skis another winter flyer ,,,, i use floots
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ORIGINAL: goldslinger

I forgot to mention that I will be using a DX-7 Radio. I got the microlite setup; can I use those servos?

Also, I guess I need a swashplate leveler, so on and so on. . . $

Gary
My DS285's seized up after the thrird or fourth crash. I have metel gears to rebuild them, but haven't done that yet.

You 'might' want to check out the new JR digitals if your set can handle it. I am going with a SportBEC to make sure that the servos have the juice they need.
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goldslinger,

I got my T-Rex combo on eBay brand new. Here's the same deal I got: [link=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250199073297]Cool 450SE V2 Combo[/link]
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Gary, a lot of folk will disagree with me here I'm sure, but when I got mine in August (first heli) I bought Align servo's and an Align gyro with the intention of upgrading them when I could afford 401, Hitec 65's etc.
I have now had over 100 flights and as you can see an Align 135 fuselage.
The system although not expensive works a treat for me and I am sticking with this setup.
I intend to keep flying scale and no 3D. All the expensive servos, gyro etc. are neccessary if you do hard 3D I am sure, but for regular flying I can assure you this setup works great.
I have now moved on to 600 scale having learnt to fly ok with this arrangement, Gary.
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BryFlyGuy67: Can this free trex be used with RF G4?
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ORIGINAL: madmodelman

Gary, a lot of folk will disagree with me here I'm sure, but when I got mine in August (first heli) I bought Align servo's and an Align gyro with the intention of upgrading them when I could afford 401, Hitec 65's etc.
I have now had over 100 flights and as you can see an Align 135 fuselage.
The system although not expensive works a treat for me and I am sticking with this setup.
I intend to keep flying scale and no 3D. All the expensive servos, gyro etc. are neccessary if you do hard 3D I am sure, but for regular flying I can assure you this setup works great.
I have now moved on to 600 scale having learnt to fly ok with this arrangement, Gary.
Well I agree too that Agusta 109A looks great, I also I'm a scale Flyer and love it
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I just purchased a 450SE V2 and I am happy with it. I have hovered a couple of times trying to dial in my set up. I crashed it last week just a foot off of the ground and it took out all of my servos and the blades, so there is another $100. I really enjoyed the build and I am still learning on the setup. I plan on using some down time to rebuild my head because it was partially built out of the box. What do enjoy most, the build, or flying? If you are patient like stated above and enjoy the mechanical aspects of the hobby, I say buy quality. Take it slow and enjoy. TREX has the design factor down, parts are affordable, and their are many resources to tap. Bob's videos are priceless, really they are free...lol. They are a must see.
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I just purchased a 450SE V2 and I am happy with it. I have hovered a couple of times trying to dial in my set up. I crashed it last week just a foot off of the ground and it took out all of my servos and the blades, so there is another $100. I really enjoyed the build and I am still learning on the setup. I plan on using some down time to rebuild my head because it was partially built out of the box. What do enjoy most, the build, or flying? If you are patient like stated above and enjoy the mechanical aspects of the hobby, I say buy quality. Take it slow and enjoy. TREX has the design factor down, parts are affordable, and their are many resources to tap. Bob's videos are priceless, really they are free...lol. They are a must see.
I totally agree with you, the T-Rex is a pleasure to work on and parts are very affordable thats why I still by replacement part everytime I make orders for other thing, you never know what you may need.
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PaulG,

Considering that I am still learning to fly, should I go cheap with my replacement servos, or is it worth it to stock up on the digital? Cost is a consideration.
Can you tell a big difference in the two?
Am I less likely to strip out the gears with digital?
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Gary--

Here is a 30 second clip, I had my thumb off the left stick for about 15 seconds hovering when I was toyin' last night in the garage...Keep in mind my fingers were frozen, and it was 34 degrees in the shop at the time. The heli & DX-7 are still in a set-up phase, as my learning continues. I've only burned 13 packs through it so far, and breaking it in. Later, I'am taking off the 315mm CF blades, and putting on the 325mm woodies for better stability. Haven't had a chance to try them yet, now curiousity is getting the best of me...! If you look on my You-Tube account, you can also see how stable the heli was on my second hover....Hope this encourages you even more.....Glad your going the Trex route...We'll learn together ol' friend...!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaaSmCo8vNA

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