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Old 01-10-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Workfly/eyesfly: Any information?

Hey there everyone, Im looking for any information on the Eyesfly.


Im starting to get into UAV technology and in looking for the a door into the industry.

Technology like the new range of quadrocopters and the eyesfly look like my place to start.

I would like to gain experience.

Any tips suggestions or leads?


Cheers. mike
Old 01-10-2007, 04:59 PM
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If money is no object, then the microdrone www.microdrone.com is the way to go, it will run into 18-20k (euro)

If money is an issue, buy the savs, i have run this excersise and there is no middle area. save your money, buy a savs, a few blades and sapres and get into it.

come to think of it you could buy two savs and still have bucket loads of cash left over compared to the alternatives.

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Old 01-10-2007, 07:34 PM
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cre8web, based on your research so far (and thanks for sharing it with us!), would you recommend a SAVS specifically for the folks who are planning to do their own camera mounts and use still cameras? Except for the battery outrigger, a standard DF V TI without the camera is cheaper, and the outrigger can be fabricated easily enough...

I guess the SAVS comes with the heavy duty motors now? But in your shots (from the other thread you started), it looks like yours is lifting the camera with the standard motors...?

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Old 01-10-2007, 07:36 PM
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Mike, as far as I can tell from several postings here and a few web sites, the way to figure out the Eyesfly price is: Figure out the most you'd be willing to spend for such a device with every bell and whistle you can think of. Then, multiply by at least 2. [X(]

One article ( just search this forum for "Workfly" and "Eyesfly" ) said an Eyesfly may cost 60,000 Euros...ouch!

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Guys
I am not saying th edf is the right solution, but i have a spent a great deal of time and money to research this, i have bought a gas heli, and a savs. to be honest i thought the savs would be a wee bit better than it is but then when you look at the price tag i DO feel it represents by far.. very far the best value for money.
I have spoken at lenght on the to microdrone in germany, workfly in france, and john at carvec in the uk and countless others.

Lets face it well for me anyway, a photo of 80% quality (like the ones i posted) is 180% better than a pic from the ground.

Spend less today, buy the savs, be a bit frustrated, but get some shots, get some experience ( me too) then before we know it 3k will buy a much better system, sure there will always be 20k systems, but i have resigned myself to the fact that a 2nd tier system is better than nothing, and is way ahead of what my competitors in real estate in western australia (some still take house pics with their mobile)

My two cents worth

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Old 01-10-2007, 09:13 PM
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Thankyou for the post's

thehindmost, how's it going? Bet its a lot sunny'r where you are than here......ararar

I figured that the eyesfly price would be a jaw dropper- From where I am In Scotland I can fly to france for the day-and possibly get a demonstration for $130 I think

I figure it would be worth it from my perspective.......

I would'nt start to imagine affording one (lest they have a ten year intrest free payment plan) however From the how they are talking on the web site the may be looking at using their machine in more of an ongoing comercial aspect than from simply a supply and demand perspective.
This might lend its-self to creating more of an owner/operator set up.


cre8web, I agree that df is the most cost efficient/versus/quality option on the market......
I can imagine ownin and operating an SAVS/ not making millions- not straight away- but surely enough to make my money back, and to have taken the first plunge into UAV.

Plus, I just get a better vibe from DF and Workfly than most of the other companies and products...

working with UAV's is my main goal- next to making enough money to survive- and a bit more for a little r&d, and then a enough for a little r&r, and then just enough for a little B&B, Just off the coast -Made out of shipping containers, and if there's anything left then-----maybe some photo voltaic pannels, a little geo-thermal heat exchanger.......mmm

Beginings beginings...

cheers again- mike



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ORIGINAL: mikemcsmith

Thankyou for the post's

thehindmost, how's it going? Bet its a lot sunny'r where you are than here......ararar
Doing great, thanks, Mike...and you? As for the weather, it's been awful here recently, at least comparatively speaking...Everyone thinks we get nothing but sunshine and temps in the 70s (er, 20s C) all year round...not true! The main problem this time of year is wind, and it's also our rainy season right now. And tonight we're even under a freezing watch! Of course, the slightest rain around here and it's "Storm Watch 2007!" on the TVs...It's fun watching Californians trying to drive in the rain (I'm from the midwest originally, not a native)...

Will
Old 01-11-2007, 12:00 PM
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Changeable weather or not- it looks like a real organised place,
centered around a democratically organised community charter.....

Good figures for a place to stay

City Population (est. Jan. 1, 2000) 62,739
City Limits 19.29 sq.mi.
Dwelling Units 23,617
Persons Per Household 2.659
Median Age 36.1
Owner-occupied Units 72.2%
Renter-occupied Units 27.8%
Median Family Income $77,400
Population Employed in Camarillo 40%


AND, you have city seal with the freindly cowboy on it.

+ an nice skatepark, always a bouns



The rain will pass for sure.........just like it will here.

(It will definetly be warmer when the sun comes out though)

cheers, mike
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Hi,

I sent several emails to Workfly to ask them some photos or videos about their eyesfly....but they don't respond to me (their website doesn't show anything about their machine and there are no more news on the website about the machine since 2006 (press, etc...) !!!). []

[link=http://www.workfly.eu/]LINK[/link]

Well, does somebody have some news about them ? Because their project seems to be stopped....

Old 12-14-2007, 11:41 AM
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I think that though we do not see the progress -

we can be sure its happening.



Do you have any particular interest?

Cheers- Mike
Old 12-14-2007, 12:33 PM
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Hi mikemcsmith ,

I don't know why....I think this project is a BIG fiasco....

Just like french people in general.....

...

This is a belgian guy (who speaks french) who's saying that........

PS : yes I did....
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Default RE: Workfly/eyesfly: Any information?

mikemcsmith,

Eyesfly = more than 60 000 euros......wow wow wow.....




Do you want to buy an Aston Martin with me ??
Old 12-14-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default RE: Workfly/eyesfly: Any information?

Ararara...

All politics......

I visited workfly last year, just before taking a trip through belguim.

Antwerrp (spelling probably wrong) was great...
Did not think much of Brussles- fortunatly/unfortunatly- I dont know?.


Its no fiasco- I can say that much.
However, as like anyone who has tried to fulfill a goal/plan from idea
to product in the market place i guess that they face the same setbacks
and a lot more besides also-

All the UAV development companies that are approching the business seriously
have a lot more to contend with than small operators of AP units and fixed wing developers.

Add into the mix that you have one of the two genuinly unique (?Spelling?) machines
that are around right now and you have a great challenge on a lot of fronts.

Mike


PS: Belguim's ok is it not- Funniest person i ever met was Belguin....

Beurocracy......Ahhhhh---now thats a crock of ****


:@)
Old 12-14-2007, 01:11 PM
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Are you making an offer?




The Aston would be cheap and nasty in comparison....

There are other options.
Old 12-14-2007, 01:39 PM
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Well.........Ok- I'll give that the aston would be slightly more practical day to day....


But- Cost more to run, large carbon footprint, its value would depriciate faster & you cant take aerial pictures with it :@)

In fact-
Lets twist it.

save the planet- Buy An Eyes'fly




Seriously though- If i have the choice- Range rover or Flying machine,
I would take the machine- even though I cant ride in it..
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Antwerpen is not in Belgium...but in Vlaanderen.........look at the BBC niews.....Belgium doesnt' exist any more....

Sorry...my english is not so good....I didn't understand all what you said about eyesfly....but when I write emails to american multinationals, they respond to me....workfly doesn't.....not very professional (it's not political...but french people are not very professional in general regarding american or english and german people...it's a reality...)....
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Default RE: Workfly/eyesfly: Any information?

You saw the eyesfly, you said ?

And what do you think about it ?

Awesome or not ?
Old 12-14-2007, 03:50 PM
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my english is not so good either- 10 out of 10 if you can decypher my interpritation of it.....



Here is a site you will maybe be interested in-


DIY UAV

http://diydrones.com/



mike

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